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Ken Medlin

Bowl bids up for grabs in ACC

Posted November 10, 2012

The ACC may soon hold a clearance sale on bowl games.

We're talking an "everything must go" blowout, but only for one season.

With two weeks remaining in the season, only four ACC teams are bowl eligible.

That's four – when the conference has eight bowl partnerships (and a ninth which is provisional).

Florida State (9-1), Clemson (9-1), Duke (6-4) and N.C. State (6-4) all have the requisite six wins. We know they're in, and we know North Carolina (sanctions) and Boston College (7 losses) will not go bowling. But after that, things get really murky.

Wake Forest, Miami and Georgia Tech are all at 5-5 – one win away from a postseason – while Maryland, Virginia and Virginia Tech are all 4-6, each needing to run the table to make a postseason bid.

And there is a scenario in which every single one of these teams doesn't make it to a bowl game.

This isn't what I want to see happen, but it's an interesting thing to watch for over the next two weeks.

We're starting with 10 teams – the four already eligible and the six still working on it.

The Cavaliers and Hokies face each other in their season finale, so they're mutually exclusive. At least one of them will stay at home. That leaves us with nine.

Now imagine Clemson, FSU, Duke and Carolina each win their remaining games. That's not unlikely for the Tigers and Seminoles, and it's at least a possibility for the Devils and Heels.

If Carolina beats Virginia, and then the Cavs beat Virginia Tech, both Commonwealth schools are out. Now we're at eight.

If Duke beats Miami and Georgia Tech, the 'Canes would have to beat South Florida and the Jackets would have to beat No. 5 Georgia. The Yellow Jackets have the more challenging opponent, but let's say the Bulls and Bulldogs both win. That eliminates Miami and GT, so now we're at six.

In this scenario, Maryland would lose to both Florida State and Carolina. So, they're done, leaving only Wake Forest.

The Deacons need one more win, but they're likely to be underdogs against both No. 4 Notre Dame and Vanderbilt. If they lose out (under this scenario, of course) the ACC would be left with only four teams to go bowling.

That nuclear winter scenario would send bowl committees in Charlotte (Belk), Nashville (Music City), Shreveport (Independence) and DC (Military) looking for at-large teams from the rest of the country.

Then there's the possibility of FSU or Clemson getting an at-large BCS bid. That would leave only three bowl tie-ins for the ACC, and El Paso's Sun Bowl would have to go fishing.

In truth, I suspect at least three more ACC teams will play their way into bowl games. And the possibility is there for as many as nine. But after what Virginia and Georgia Tech did to Triangle teams this month, you never know.

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  • duane11 Nov 11, 12:43 p.m.

    Its thats time of year again. ACC teams fighting for the toilet bowls, and bragging, and feeling... View More

    — Posted by Toddler10-21

    Better to be Bowl Eligible than being sanctioned and watching other teams enjoy their trips.

    — Posted by FAN72

    Must be a bitty to know your going to a bowl game knowing you got a BIG FAT "L"... View More

    — Posted by Aint ur day

    actually, beating fsu&going to a bowl game does outweigh losing to unc, especially after 5 straight wins over unc...i would take going to a bowl over beating unc and not going to a bowl 10 out of 10 times

  • Aint ur day Nov 11, 10:08 a.m.

    Its thats time of year again. ACC teams fighting for the toilet bowls, and bragging, and feeling... View More

    — Posted by Toddler10-21

    Better to be Bowl Eligible than being sanctioned and watching other teams enjoy their trips.

    — Posted by FAN72

    Must be a bitty to know your going to a bowl game knowing you got a BIG FAT "L" against that sanctioned team huh? Your bowl bid and maybe even a win will NOT resonate around the triangle area like the improbable loss you sustained against that very team!

    Now...go howl about that!!!!

  • FAN72 Nov 11, 8:50 a.m.

    Its thats time of year again. ACC teams fighting for the toilet bowls, and bragging, and feeling... View More

    — Posted by Toddler10-21

    Better to be Bowl Eligible than being sanctioned and watching other teams enjoy their trips.

  • norm54 Nov 11, 8:08 a.m.

    There's also the rumor that Miami might self-impose a bowl ban again this year.

  • Toddler10-21 Nov 11, 7:44 a.m.

    Its thats time of year again. ACC teams fighting for the toilet bowls, and bragging, and feeling good about being bowl eligible.

  • saxon4646 Nov 11, 5:52 a.m.

    This goes to show you that there are just TOO MANY BOWLS ! Any team that is 6-6 in my opinion is not worthy of any Post season play. In school 50% is FAILING. Eliminate 20% of the bowls and only reward a team that is no worse than 7-4. Also- eliminate wins over Div 2 schools. They shouldn't count as those schools are 99% over matched before the opening kickoff. Money- I know that fuels these bowls but no matter which team I love- I wouldn't pay to see them play anywhere with a 6-6 record and spend 1000 dollars to watch it. Just my opinion.

  • london12 Nov 11, 5:25 a.m.

    Wouldn't mind following State to Nashville this year. It's a great town, plus it's old hat going to Charlotte.

  • wbarrett92 Nov 10, 11:27 p.m.

    The only stat that matters is the final score.

  • Hokies94 Nov 10, 10:20 p.m.

    Nice summary Ken. There's a bunch of scenarios still in play. VT has been the largest bust in the entire ACC. We had better stats against Clemson, Miami, and FSU on offensive. We beat Clemson in all areas. A team that has 25-14 1st downs should win when we had more rushing, passing, kicking, and all cat's and still lose. The reason is that Beamer doesn't have enough courage to pull Logan Thomas with 15 Int's this year and give another QB a chance.

    We held FSU to minus 15 yards rushing. Bud Foster should be the next Head Coach. As a graduate of VT, I'm ready for a change! Beamer reminds me of Bobby Bowden in his latter years.

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