Caulton Tudor

Players discuss party scene, Manning Camp and finales

Posted July 22, 2013

Kareem Martin and Bryn Renner, UNC’s player representatives at ACC Kickoff, made it clear Sunday that they are not members of the Haydn (Fats) Thomas party scene.

“You’re always told to keep good company and stay away from guys who are doing the wrong thing,” said Martin, a junior defensive end from Roanoke Rapids. “Guys on the team just stay away from any trouble like that.”

Both Martin and Renner, a senior quarterback from Springfield, Va., said they had never met the Durham man.

Thomas, a convicted felon, is a central figure in developments involving Tar Heel basketball player P.J. Hairtson, who was arrested in Durham on June 5 for marijuana possession and driving without a license. Police said a pistol was found outside the vehicle, which had been rented by Thomas. On Friday Durham police dismissed all charges against Hairston.

Duke players Anthony Boone (quarterback) and Ross Cockrell (defensive back) said they didn’t know Thomas and had not heard his name before the Hairston incident.

“After it happened, we had a team meeting and the coaches warned us to stay away from that kind of stuff,” said Boone, a red-shirt junior from Monroe.

“I don’t think any of the guys on our team even knew about him (before Hairston’s arrest). I was like ‘Fats? Who’s Fats?’ Then I got up to speed on everything. It’s a thing where guys have to be mature and smart enough to stay out of those situations.

“Hopefully, we won’t have to deal with anything like that. Coach Cut (David Cutcliffe) does a good job of finding high character guys and the ones who didn’t show it are already gone.”


Miami’s Stephen Morris won the skills competition at the now famous Manning Quarterback Camp, which was held July 11-14 at Nicholls State University in Thibodaux, La.

Approximately 40 college quarterbacks attended, including Boone, Renner, Maryland’s C.J. Brown and Heisman Trophy winner Johnny Manziel of Texas A&M.

When Manziel left camp early after oversleeping and missing a meeting, there was some speculation that he had partied his way out of the Manning brothers’ good grace and told to leave camp.

Boone and Morris said most of the other players didn’t know what had happened until a day or two later.

““I didn’t know anything about it until campers came up to me and started telling me,” said Morris, a senior from Miami.


Morris and Wake Forest Michael Campanaro were among a number of players who said they would like to see the ACC’s season-ending games reworked.

“I would love to see us end against Florida State every year,” Morris said. “I think it’d be great for both programs and great for the conference.”

Traditionally, Florida State ends regular season against Southeastern Conference power Florida.

Miami ends at new ACC member Pittsburgh this season, but finished against Duke last season, Boston College in 2011 and South Florida in 2010.

The Hurricanes face Florida State on Nov. 2.

Wake will finish against Vanderbilt of the SEC for the fourth straight season.

“I’d really rather play a conference game – State or Duke or Carolina maybe – for that last game,” said Campanaro, a senior wide out from Clarksville, Md. “I think most players on all the teams would rather end with a conference game, but I guess that’s not possible.”

ACC commissioner John Swofford said Sunday that the league is in the process of trying to revamp schedules to create more conference finales.

This season, four ACC teams will finish against SEC opponents.


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  • genesmith2 Jul 23, 7:29 a.m.

    None of the players asked said they knew anything about Fats. No discussion, no information, yet its your lead in the headline? Why?
    Writers love to make heros of sports figures, and then try to cut them down. I wonder who's ego is being served?
    As far as marijuana is concerned, let those who have never tried it throw the first stone. Read the federal transcripts of why it was criminalized. "Makes white women want to sleep with n----- men. Makes white people want to listen to jazz and rock and roll. Leads to heroin addition." Legalized it, reduce prison populations by 25%, reduce court time by 35%, add revenue to state and federal tax coffers, and eliminate one of the major profit centers of organized crime. Of course criminal lawyers, private prison companies (big business today), and even some police personnel do not want their business cut, so...

  • Jewelry-EricLeak Jul 23, 7:09 a.m.

    don't worry you guys are the teflon dons.... plus you have those snappy new black uniforms this... View More

    — Posted by leo35353535

    Yep, Duke athletes don't deal with little fry like "Fats".......they walk into NY jewelry stores and order up $100K worth of bling with confidence that it will be "taken care of"

  • leo35353535 Jul 22, 11:17 p.m.

    don't worry you guys are the teflon dons.... plus you have those snappy new black uniforms this year... they look oddly familiar, wait Duke debuted them last year... i'm all for PJ getting the first time offenders treatment, but it does make me wonder about all the parking tickets issued to various athletes on campus in the prior scandal. how many scandals are there now?

  • stephdell18 Jul 22, 10:00 p.m.

    The pictures are posted on the PackPride webiste in the most recent thread. They clearly show Greg Little, Robert Quinn, Marvin Austin, Kareem Martin, Tre Boston, Tim Jackson, etc attending one of Fat's party's. The media is too lazy to find them. They are still on the facebook account of Kareem Martin.

  • Hokies94 Jul 22, 8:48 p.m.


    You may want to update your story. There are plenty of pictures just now released of... View More

    — Posted by stephdell18

    You may have something in this one. I wouldn't be surprised. Johnson seems to have a rock star status up there. He will be hiring a lawyer again soon. I would surmpise that a bunch of new information will be coming forward in regard to PJ and maybe some others dealing with ol Fats.

  • heelsforever Jul 22, 7:33 p.m.

    Well, the only ones that lie are the reporters like Dan Kane and Caulton Tutor, as well as the... View More

    — Posted by rduguyhere

    I wonder why that big ol' bad NCAA who is in the back pocket of the Swof and UNC hasn't smack down the Fack yet for all the unsolicited email...

  • rduguyhere Jul 22, 6:00 p.m.

    Well, the only ones that lie are the reporters like Dan Kane and Caulton Tutor, as well as the countless State fans who post on every UNC story known to man while also emailing every single person that can possibly exist, including the janitor, at the NCAA's office to lie even more about whatever they want to think that UNC is supposedly doing or not doing. Funny thing is that the State fan and Reporters "crying wolf" (no pun intended) really is getting old and i'm sure the folks at the NCAA cringe every time they see a letter or an email from a State fan. It almost has to make them puke i'm sure.

    I wish these people would just get a life and stop capitalizing off of these non stories (news and observer and wral) and stop with the obsessive nonsense (state fans in general.)

  • CarolinaMike Jul 22, 5:47 p.m.


    You may want to update your story. There are plenty of pictures just now released of... View More

    — Posted by stephdell18

    You are a lair.
    If you are not a big fat lair then prove what you said or shut the up and crawl back under you rock...maggot!!!

  • 903 crybaby Jul 22, 4:54 p.m.

    More troll bait thrown in as a story about Manning Camp. Amazing how they keep sneaking the little digs in. Waiting to see what he comes up with tomorrow. Kane and Tudor, could be a tag team in the WWF. One could dress up as the Undertaker and the other as Henry the Eighth.

  • heelsforever Jul 22, 4:17 p.m.

    Oh Toots, now you're regurgitating stories too? What IS the world coming to...




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