Joe Ovies

Talking Points: Busy day in "ARRR State"

Posted November 24, 2013

Billboard following East Carolina's win over NC State.

1. Duke traveled to Wake Forest, NC State welcomed East Carolina, and North Carolina hosted Old Dominion. The Tar Heels played a basketball game against Richmond and the Carolina Hurricanes faced off against Boston. It was a ridiculously busy afternoon in Triangle sports and almost impossible to keep up with it all.

It sure was fun trying.

Buried in the football action was more intimation that North Carolina won't be getting P.J. Hairston back in the lineup anytime soon.

2.  North Carolina extended their winning streak with an 80-20 win over Old Dominion. It's almost impossible to analyze the victory due to the absurd nature of the result. The 80 points put up by the Tar Heels are the second-highest total ever by an ACC team. Carolina's 11 touchdowns and 721 yards of offense set school records.

It was't as if North Carolina was trying to run up the score. Old Dominion simply suffered a number of defensive breakdowns. Five of the 11 touchdowns came on plays of 50 yards or longer, including a 99-yard kickoff return by T.J. Logan and a 64-yard punt return by Ryan Switzer. Unless folks were expecting the Tar Heels to take a knee every time they broke into the open field, it was impossible for this game not to get out of hand. 

Even after Old Dominion and North Carolina mutually agreed to play a 10 minute fourth quarter, the Tar Heels were just a field goal away from topping the score of their basketball peers. Rather than embarrass the Monarchs any further, head coach Larry Fedora instructed his team to take a knee in the closing moments instead. 

With Carolina's fifth straight victory, the Tar Heels are now bowl eligible and in position to ruin Duke's Coastal Division dreams on Saturday.

3. Astute observers understood going to Winston-Salem wasn't going to be a walk in the park for Duke. Head coach Jim Grobe has a knack for knocking off Triangle squads when they visit his home turf.  

Given the sluggish start, where the Blue Devils fell behind 14-0 early, it looked like Wake Forest was going to mount another mascot head on the den wall. But this Duke team is different from the previous squads that came before it. Head coach David Cutcliffe has spent the majority of the season crediting what he calls "the process" for this type of resiliency. It was on display against as the Blue Devils made key defensive stops and pounded away on offense.

Duke clinched a share of the Coastal Division title and can earn a trip to Charlotte for the ACC Championship game with a win over North Carolina. 

4. In memoriam: "Our State."

I come to bury "Our State," not bore you with a hot sports take. 

The slogan served its purpose as NC State's football team won five straight over North Carolina and the basketball team became trendy on the national scene. It rankled the Wolfpack's rivals, even drawing an emotional reaction from those who deemed NC State unworthy of rivalry status.

Now "Our State" is delivered as a zinger. 

Credit to athletics director Debbie Yow in her attempt to unify a scrambled message at NC State. In the absence of consistent winning and championships, Yow and her brain trust off Hillsborough Street did their best to give the Wolfpack a branding identity in the middle of program overhaul. It wasn't original, but that's not the point. Most marketing ideas are borrowed from other places and this particular one made sense to use in a crowded sports market. 

While NC State will likely come up with another idea in the future, winning is the best branding possible.


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  • lewiskr45 Nov 26, 2013

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    I never called the logo stupid, just ecu fans in general. And it has nothing to do with "jealousy", I just think most fans across North Carolina, ecu fans included, are delusional. You really think ecu plays "big boy football"? Other than being in the same subdivision as "big boy football" programs, can ecu really call simply being competitive in a mediocre conference like the cusa "big boy football"? If ecu was in the acc, would they be any better than any other NC school, sometimes being competitive but usually finishing towards the bottom of the conference?

    What I'm trying to say is, ecu football is ok at best, competitive in the cusa but not on the national level and will never play for a national title. If you really want to get petty though, 3 national championships at the FCS level is better than none at the FBS level.

  • johnnyaudit Nov 26, 2013

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    So you're a Happy Appy and you call our logo stupid after that App State "Hot, Hot, Hot" video a few years ago? Wow, I'd look in the mirror before making fun of someone else's promotions.

    Maybe one day you'll move up to big boy football like the Pirates. And, please, don't bring up that one victory over Michigan a decade ago. Until then, try to keep your jealousy from showing so much when ECU beats ACC teams.

  • lewiskr45 Nov 25, 2013

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    I'm not a Duke fan either, but I will tell you who I cheer for.

    Ready for the big reveal?

    Appalachian State

    Didn't know it is courageous to declare who I am a fan of, but I am flying high now. I am just trying to be realistic when I comment.

  • Willie_11 Nov 25, 2013

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    Just as I figured, I went back to google and searched ' lewiskr45' and most of lewis' comments are just like this one. All negative and put downs without the courage to come out and say who it supports. Here is a small sample:
    1-These articles are just terrible.
    2-You could say the panthers have only one quality win too.
    3-Great move, Logan has more sports knowledge than anyone on WRAL, 99.9, or 620. He brings a level of sports broadcasting and analysis to the Triangle that is needed with all of the professional and college teams here. (BTW: Logan coached those same stupid people you blasted today.)

  • Willie_11 Nov 25, 2013

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    Note: I am not a UNC, ECU or state fan - noticed you didn't said who you pull for, who do you pull for? Duke? They weren't in your exclusive list? Or are you one of those "I'm too smart to be a sports fan" types?

    Go Pirates!

  • tdouble232323 Nov 25, 2013

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    When you life revolves around big brother UNC, no surprise you don't know who ODU has played. Ha!

  • Mustang Nov 25, 2013

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    You're right. The Pirates lost 15-10 the previous week in a close game with Virginia Tech. Next excuse please. 55-31

  • lewiskr45 Nov 25, 2013

    ECU fans can gloat all they want, but at the end of the day, they beat one of the worst teams in the ACC, and have a winning record because of playing in an extremely weak CUSA. As far as the logo goes, other schools (Illinois, Indiana, even UNC) have used the outline of their state at midfield, so it isn't really "yours". And to get technical, it is the state of NORTH Carolina, not East Carolina. If ECU were to paint the eastern part of the state at midfield, it would make much more sense, but it is ecu and they are pretty stupid. As far as beating unc, they sucked early in the year and have benefited from a weak schedule in the second half.

    Note: I am not a UNC, ECU or state fan.

  • returnofdouggie64 Nov 25, 2013

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    Someone get the idjit some ointment, that's gonna leave a MARK!

    GREAT JOB, Honesty first!!!

  • TerrorOnTheHighSeas Nov 25, 2013

    [quote]We are such glorious people, you should kneel before us, and only speak if acknowledged. Now scurry along.[/quote

    How are things in Winterville ?




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