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  • NCSU72 Feb 9, 2013

    Best comment I've seen about this never ending scandal was in today's N&O. They reprinted it from their website"

  • jacunc75 Feb 9, 2013

    McAdoo needs to man up and accept his own responsibility in the mess.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Feb 7, 2013

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    I'm pretty sure most of us know that the "real" students actually do their work and the athletes have been the problem. But then, some "regular students" were in those bogus classes, too.

    But if regular students and professors are unhappy with the hit to their image, they can always come clean with whatever they know so it can be pinned where it belongs -- on the athletics department. We all know that's where the problem lies, but the NCAA (apparently) requires a smoking, irrefutable gun before they will do anything about it.

  • StunGunn Feb 7, 2013

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    Have to admit that line of reasoning is not rational. Talk about two wrongs....

    One thing that bothers me is that people are discrediting the STUDENTS at Carolina. Non-athlete students had to be at the top of their high school class to even be admitted into Carolina. They had to work very hard to complete their classes and graduate. My daughter was a chemistry major under grad and went to grad school at Carolina, and she worked very, very hard. I realize Carolina brought on these problems and made them worse by not coming clean. It's still unfair to the actual students, and 99% of the kids attending Carolina are students.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Feb 7, 2013

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    Unless he gets PAID first... like all the other canaries that have flown the coop.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Feb 7, 2013

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    Oh, we will!

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Feb 7, 2013

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    Apparently, it is not a problem (in the eyes of the NCAA) if non-athletes were also involved.

    So I guess we can give cars and money to our players as long as we also give cars and money to a couple of regular students, as well.

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Feb 7, 2013

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    Oh, only pansy fans sell cars??

    Another interesting tidbit.

    Thanks!

  • BernsteinIII Feb 7, 2013

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    Cow would be your wife and mom.

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Feb 7, 2013

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    Lol
    You're clearly confused lil fella.

    Hang in there!

  • vile garbage Feb 7, 2013

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    You hope my cubicle mate is a State fan? I said CAR salesman, not COW. :)

  • vile garbage Feb 7, 2013

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    You know you share cubicles.

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Feb 7, 2013

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    LOL, so car salesmen SHARE cubicles now???

    I did NOT know that.

    hopefully your cubicle mate is a State fan :)

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Feb 7, 2013

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    LOL.. .oh the IRONY.

    it was actually "Greg Barnes" from IC that uttered these now FAMOUS words- "it will all be over by FRIDAY".

    the only problem is... that Friday, was almost 3 years ago!!!

    LMBAO!

  • vile garbage Feb 7, 2013

    Face it it's been checked into from every single angle that it could possibly be checked from. WRAL has made sure of that. But feel free to stop selling Chevy Cobalts today and go conduct your own private investigation. But, you better have your a-- back to your shared cubicle by 12:30.

  • vile garbage Feb 7, 2013

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    LOLOLOLOL Are we still hearing "wait until Friday" from 6 months ago? LOLOLOL

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Feb 7, 2013

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    LOL

    "salty"... that's HILARIOUS coming from someone COMPLAINING about pastel u being DRAGGED THROUGH THE MUD!!!

    g'stuff... keep'em coming... I love morning LAUGHTER!

  • vile garbage Feb 7, 2013

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    Amen.

  • vile garbage Feb 7, 2013

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    It's been investigated for years and years straight, by numerous groups. Salty.

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Feb 7, 2013

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    LOL

    tell us MORE about how McAdoo arrainged the phone call with the reporter, and NOT the other way around.

    it's clearly KILLING you that NATIONALLY recognized publications CONTINUE to SLANDER pastel U, that much is overtly clear.

    how about your AD and legal counsel BOTH being TOO lazy to check "his work", BEFORE defending him??? your school looks more and more amateurish as each day passes..

    and for that, we than them :)

    you poor lil challenged thing.

  • Tunaboy Feb 7, 2013

    yep, it's time to stir the same dung again to see if it still stinks ... and arouse the interest of the same dung flies ...

  • StunGunn Feb 7, 2013

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    I respect you and you brought up some valid points. Not denying or deflecting, but I do believe athletes are treated different at many, if not most schools. Steve Logan has been around the block and kicked more than a few tires in his coaching career, and he flat out said on many occasions that this type of cheating goes on everywhere (he used the word "everywhere"). That said, I don't believe that the level of cheating at Carolina goes on "everywhere" IE Duke, Wake, to name two.

    The level of cheating that went on at Carolina ran deep, and it didn't start with Butch, something I didn't realize until more dirt was unearthed during the investigations.

    My daughter went to Carolina, undergrad and grad, and she worked her tail off and has a very successful career. When I think of Carolina, and the education a student receives there, I think of her and others who went to Carolina. The "student/athlete" is completely different, at least in basketball and football. I don't know what the answer is, but the current system clearly isn't working. The playing field should be level, and clearly it hasn't been.

    I agree that Carolina didn't cooperate and they tried to sweep a lot of dirt under the carpet, but they have taken measures to correct the fraud: Chancellor Thorp is stepping down, Butch, Blake, Baddour, "Dr J" "retired (don't agree with that, he shouldn't get a dime), are all part of Carolina's effort to clean up their act.

    I don't know when this will all be over, but winning on the field and court doesn't justify cheating IMHO.

  • Rameses Unchained Feb 7, 2013

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    Money grab. Do you know for a FACT the coaches lied? No, you have his word and he has already lied about getting impermissable help. Maybe the kid is that ignorant. Already tried to sue before. Again, why do YOU think he is doing it. Most people sue to "get money". He and his lawyer are in hopes of extorting some cash out of someone. Guarantee some attorney is behind this.

    Honestly, I'm even more convinced you are the stoopidest person on here.

    Thanks for playing.

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Feb 7, 2013

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    LOL

    this one's clearly "upset".

    tissue, 24???

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Feb 7, 2013

    LOL, how about the coaches recruiting him, that he was TELLING that he planned on majoring in criminal justice??? WHY did they LIE, or not own up to NOT having it???

    also, IF you could read, you'd see where it was REQUESTED OF HIM (NOT BY him) to CALL the reporter with the NYT... it had NOTHING to do with his desire to smear the pansies (yes, I realize that sounds eerily like what NCSU did to them less than 2 weeks ago) on signing day.

    Thanks for playing, and by all means... DO TRY AGAIN... womp, WOMP, W-O-M-P!!

  • vile garbage Feb 7, 2013

    Add this to the list of "I can't prove it but". Salty cause he got kicked out. I have learned here lately that NCSU fans are WAAAAAAAAY more irritating than Duke fans. Win something in the last 30 years, even if you do have to cheat. It's pathetic.

  • kornfan2448 Feb 7, 2013

    "That is when the walls will come tumbling down for UNC." Man, some have it BAD...lol.

  • Rameses Unchained Feb 7, 2013

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    Considering you can look online and see what majors are offered, this does make the young man look bad on his part. The NCAA has already addressed the fact that athletes were steered into the AFAM courses. So did Gov. Martin. They have even named names of those responsible. Again, what revelation has he stated and what proof does he have? Nothing. Why come out with it yesterday. Well IMHTHO, he's still poed about the plagarism and he wsnted to make a splash on signing day to hopefully provide some pain back to the university. If you can't see through this whole article, I'm not sure we can help you with the brain transplant discussed a few months ago. We do have to have a little to work with to attach the new brain.

    Thanks for playing.

  • Rameses Unchained Feb 7, 2013

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    Uh, it's an opinion. Opinions may be far fetched but not lies.

    Thanks for playing.

  • RadicalMagick Feb 6, 2013

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    Stay tuned, more to come.

  • RadicalMagick Feb 6, 2013

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    Give them a break, shame will do that to you. Can't accept the fact that your school cheated so you attack everybody else. They try to make State look bad instead of maning up and admitting that their school has become a joke. That will have that kind of effect on you and alot of UNC fans can't admit the true, but they are just following what they have learned from the school.

  • RadicalMagick Feb 6, 2013

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    BTW, Williams, Wilson, etc were all during the Davis era, who are all those UNC stars that he produced.

  • kkevin7048 Feb 6, 2013

    Such a sad sad school to attend.

  • RadicalMagick Feb 6, 2013

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    Yeah we know, UNC has so many great players in the NFL and State hasn't produced any. Wilson will wake up from his dream of starting for the Seahawks, Rivers along with 2 other State QBs never started in the NFL. How many QBs has ever started in the NFL from UNC other than Yates when the starter got injured. M Williams has just got to realize that he isn't the highest paid defensive lineman in the NFL. Lets forget all about the State linebacker that coached the Steelers to Super Bowl championships, how many has Butch had. Forget about T Holt also. You are a joke or are clueless. I've named several players from State and there are many more that had long NFL careers and won championships in the NFL, besides Peppers and Taylor name a bunch of UNC players in that catagory. It isn't even close, I didn't even mention T Brown and others that played and started many years in the NFL. UNC has produced a few very good linemen, but State has produced many more star and championship players than UNC could even dream of.

  • RadicalMagick Feb 6, 2013

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    Sorry jgunn, if what he is saying is true UNC did not give him a chance to earn a degree. That might have given him a chance at a degree, but not earned. No, he does not appear to be too smart, but if he did not have to attend the classes, he never even met the professor, amoung other claims, then UNC did not give him a chance to earn a degree. Who knows, he may not have even plagerized the paper if he had recieved the proper instructions for the class as he should have. I'll agree that he is just after the money and is bitter, but UNC brought alot of this on themselves, It is about athletes, but it is more about academics and eventhough he does not appear to be too smart, UNC also failed him in that also. I know that athletes get special treatment at most schools, but all the people saying that this kind of academic fraud goes on all the time are completely wrong. It very rarely goes on and there is no excuse for it. Cheating in athletics is bad, but cheating in academics is inexcusable. The reason this story will not go away and will just continue to get worse until the walls come tumbling down for UNC is because they have covered up everything at every point and fail to take real responsibility for their actions. They pick and choose as to what they admit to and pretty much act like eveybody else is stupid enough to believe them. That kind of arrogance will come back to bite them in the end and it will bite them real hard. By continuing this type of behavior, they will damage UNC in a manor that will take a long time to overcome and if they don't stop it will permamently damage UNC as an instituation.

  • uncsuckz Feb 6, 2013

    RadMag, you have driven off all the unc kool-aid drinkers....for now. Guess the pen is mightier than the sword after all.

  • RadicalMagick Feb 6, 2013

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    Did you expect anything different. It was not an independant investigation. It was an investigation by somebody hand picked by UNC to protect their interest.

  • RadicalMagick Feb 6, 2013

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    Agreed, special treatment for athletes is everywhere, but forging signatures, grade changes and the type of frauds committed at UNC does not. That kind of behavior is not tolerated at mant schools at all and is inexcusable in academics.

  • uncsuckz Feb 6, 2013

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    Cheer, cheer! I agree 100% but the unc followers are gonna be pizzed at you. No one even mentions the $171K that N'garo (or whatever) got for supposedly 'teaching" this class. Doesn't that money come from the pockets of n.c. state taxes collected? Guess that's OK with them but not me!

  • Triumph Feb 6, 2013

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    huevos you ain't got

  • RadicalMagick Feb 6, 2013

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    Yes he was steered there by an academic advisor and who do you think was instructing the academic advisors. UNC fans can deny it all they want to but because of the fact that UNC has not come clean and covered up as much as possible, this story will not die anytime soon and it will get much worse. All the yawns and who cares by UNC fans reflects the same attitude the school has and why this will get much worse. Everytime you think its over and there is nothing to see, something else comes up. The big problem and the straw that broke the camel's back will be the professor. Sure he took his payoff and faded away, but with the criminal investigation they will have to go after him in the end to protect the university. He may be a good little soldier right now and accept the roll of the scapegoat, but when he faces criminal charges you will see his loyality fade away and he will protect himself. That is when the walls will come tumbling down for UNC. So yawn and say there is nothing to see, there will be alot more to come and because of UNC failure to cooperate and covering up as much as they can, in the end the authorities in power will not be able to protect UNC any longer, they will not have a choice.

  • tsquaring Feb 6, 2013

    The gift that keeps on giving....

  • RadicalMagick Feb 6, 2013

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    First and foremost the university's responsibility is to give the student an education and a chance at a degree, athlete or not. By failing to put him in legitiment classes they did not do what is required of the school. Yes, its all about money to him, but the academics part is the part that UNC should be held accountable for. Cheating and special treatment for athletes goes on alot, but the kind of academic fraud that was commited at UNC does not and there is no excuse for it. While his complaints are about money, it also backs up the claims made about UNC academics and the school should be held accountable for that. Its not fair to the non-athletes that have to work hard to earn their degree while the athletes don't. And there is no excuse or justifaction for the grade changes and forged signatures, that is not something that goes on at many schools at all and something that should not be tolerated in education.

  • Constitutional-Defender Feb 6, 2013

    AWESOME!

  • PackFan1983 Feb 6, 2013

    I think this canary is about to SING...

  • MoDuke v2 is gone Feb 6, 2013

    If carolina would have only come clean at the very beginning this would have all been over by Friday. But they are hell bent on trying to keep them beach towels hanging from the rafters.

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Feb 6, 2013

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    LOL

    No, he's NOT... he already makes close to half a million a year.

    make up ANOTHER LIE, pansy.. that's literally ALL y'all do.

    embarrassing.

    really.

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Feb 6, 2013

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    LOL

    sure, NOTHING NEW was discovered... then, how about you provide a LINK to mcadoo claiming he was STEERED to these classes, and his major, BEFORE that article was released.

    I'll be right here, FAILboy!

  • Rameses Unchained Feb 6, 2013

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    McAdoo is looking a money grab. Sad.

  • Rameses Unchained Feb 6, 2013

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    Please tell me what was new in this article? What was exposed?

    Oh, the NY Times respectable...one of the most liberal and wrong newspapers out there. "journalistic lapses"

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/22/opinion/22pubed.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

    Thanks for playing.

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