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  • FqurAutumn Jun 27, 2013


  • unc70 May 30, 2013

    Campbell's snub makes complete sense. Their "quality" wins were 3x #59 Liberty, 2x #74 Duke, 2x #84 ECU, #89 Appalachian, #98 College of Charleston -- Liberty was at home, lost to Liberty in tourney. Losses to #180, #200, #253. Win your conference or have a stronger record. lets you look around at the various rankings, schedules, results, ... and shows RPI, polls, SOS, for each week in the season. Look at the list by RPI and compare Campbell with those around it. Schools not in: Notre Dame, Seton Hall, Michigan State, Auburn, Western Carolina, Pittsburg.

    A team's RPI is based on their record, that of their opponents, and of their opponents opponents. I suspect that the win at Duke and a couple of similar things have distorted their RPI. Compare Campbell's schedule with that of Elon or Liberty. Those have weaker RPI's but have schedules with a lot better competition. Campbell should should have been able to schedule some teams in top 75. Most everyone else could and did..

    I had thought Campbell was likely to win its tourney, otherwise a positive bubble team. But looking deeper, their record is a lot thinner than I had thought.

  • Baseball dude May 29, 2013

    RPI? I am pretty sure it was around 35. By the way there were other teams with higher/worse RPI's that got in and with worse records... That was one thing that Coach Goff brought up that the NCAA had mentioned, that the NCAA had brought up and that they had tried to make sure they kept below 30 all year till the last game.

  • BattlingBishop 5 May 29, 2013

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    Sure, Johnny, sure! Afterall, teams win 49 games all the time. Did it ever occur to you that "certain teams" won't play them? Back to your gaming.....leave the baseball to the adults, kid!

  • BattlingBishop 5 May 29, 2013

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    Weak.....very weak! Back to the minors, fella.

  • JohnnyVoodoo May 29, 2013

    I think what the NCAA is looking at or at least taking into consideration, is the fact that UCLA aka University of Campbell between Lillington and Angier, didn't really play anyone this year. Sure, they played NC State, but they lost that game. And yeah, they beat Liberty several times, but lost to them when it really counted in the tourney. Just because you beat a bunch of cupcakes doesn't mean you get an automatic pass to play with the big boys. Bottom line is, if you're gonna play in the NCAA tourney, you gotta beat some NCAA tourney caliber teams in the reqular season. ...Period, end of story. Now run on down to the ABC store at the Cape Fear River and go on back to McCall, Small, and Burkot dorm and get drunk and get laid.

  • rduguyhere May 29, 2013

    Who and where is campbell anyway? Do they make the soup?

  • rduguyhere May 29, 2013

    What was the Kamels RPI? I think that probably says it all.

  • StunGunn May 28, 2013

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    Things like this make me wish the big schools WOULD bolt. Heartbreaking to see those kids watching the selection show waiting for their name to be called, but it never was. Their season is over, and it shouldn't be. Very unfair.

  • StunGunn May 28, 2013

    I still think Campbell should have been invited to the NCAAT. Several posters pointed out that Campbell asked UNC and other schools for a series, but they refused. How can Campbell improve their SOS if the "name brand" schools refuse to play them? I really feel for those guys - they gathered to watch the selection show only to see their name wasn't called. With their record, it just seems WRONG.

  • VT1994Hokie May 28, 2013

    Pretty much a darn shame. The NCAA is so inconsistent.

  • 75Tarheel May 28, 2013

    Campbell MORE than made their case for an at-large bid for the Tournament. It just goes to show how the NCAA works. Coastal Carolina has been a good program for several years. Campbell is just coming into it's own after recruiting well for several years. But side by side Campbell is by far the better team. The 'newby' on the block always get screwed. GO TO H3LL NCAA pansies.

    GO HEELS '75
    GO CAMELS '96

  • Ken D. May 28, 2013

    The NCAA should just stop pretending that it uses the RPI in any of its selection processes. Whenever it's inconvenient, they just ignore it in favor of appeasing the major conferences. The fear the NCAA has that those big schools will bolt if they aren't catered to is palpable.

  • BattlingBishop 5 May 28, 2013

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    Tell that to somebody who doesn't know baseball, fella. Most understand what this is all about.

  • wlcat609 May 28, 2013

    Perhaps the local media (N+O and TV Sports personnel) should followup on the REAL reasons that Campbell was left out - if they could only take their ACC Blinders off.

    Additionally, this week there is a National NCAA Baseball tournament being played at the USA Baseball Training Complex in Cary...Have you seen any news about it? I haven't and I think this sucks! I've had a total tournament ticket for such for all five years the tournament has been played there - the baseball is GREAT and the ticket price is right - $30 for a total tournament ticket (for 12 - 13 games) - you do the math!

  • cjw6105 May 28, 2013

    No one seems to consider that Campbell's loss in the Big South Tourney final to Liberty was by one run on the Flames' home field. They beat Liberty multiple times this season.

    No one seems to consider that Campbell is a small school that cannot make the larger schools schedule them, and they have to take leftovers in filling their schedule each season.

    No one seems to consider that regardless of who they played, the Camels are a solid team that won 49 games and get ranked #23, with a high RPI. Campbell did about all they could possibly do to make their case, and I still say what the NCAA did to them borders on criminal.

    The fact that #7 NC State didn't get one of the 8 Super Regional and got sent to the West Coast for the Super, when nearly everyone else in the tourney was kept close to home or at least in their region, should show us that the NCAA selection committee has an agenda other than proper team selection/placement.

    It's always going to be the Florida States, the North Carolinas, the SEC, and the BCS-level schools who get all the plum seedings in the NCAA baseball tourney. And in basketball, it's a different set of teams but usually the same ones over and again. ESPN, who I still blame for what's going on here, has its television preferences.

    Anyone on here who goes along with the NCAA's excuse that strength of schedule trumped all the positives in Campbell's season simply is in denial of what is going on. The NCAAT's are being carefully controlled by those who have big financial interests here, and they aren't about to share the wealth. Not with the Campbells, they aren't.

  • Baseball dude May 28, 2013

    It should not be what they didn't do, it should be what they did do this season. Sometimes its not their fault of who they didn't play. Those teams have to play folks in their own conference and sometime you just cannot get some of those teams in a match up.. Just can't do it. Next year they should make it and then refuse to play in it.. Let the NCAA go get another team.. SNUB them.. GREAT season for the Camels don't hang your heads fellers, your above the ones that snubbed you. THEIR LOSS.

  • BattlingBishop 5 May 28, 2013

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    They should have been selected in the field of 64.

  • dlnorri May 28, 2013

    They knew the way in, as did liberty. Not so many years ago there were no at-large entries into NCAA field, if you lost the conference, you stayed home. Not sure what the committee did, and seems the RPI seriously disagreed with them. In many sports (especially football) teams are not rewarded for strong seasons against week schedules (known exception being Alabama football in '79-'80, won the mythical title and never played a ranked team, schedule was 105 out of 115 or so). Hope the guys cheer up for what they did and have and come back stronger next year. Hopefully the instate schools will schedule them some games, surely they can find some regional non-conference games; although that can be hard also for a winning team (who wants to schedule a possible whipping). If they win the conference title there is no problem.....

  • lec02572 May 28, 2013

    What a bad joke. The NCAA once again proved that it just does not take its job seriously. I guess as usual it is the all mighty dollar that really counts, and this time they got it wrong big time. CU should have easily made the tournament, even if it did put them in the UNC bracket. That would have sold a lot of tickets, just like the ACC tournament with NCSU and UNC in the same bracket. The NCAA just needs to outsource the selections for the baseball and basketball tournaments to an independent party.

  • dooksucksv5 May 28, 2013

    From the article:

    Campbell played only one non-conference NCAA tournament team, losing 5-2 at N.C. State.

    Meanwhile, Coastal Carolina played 13 non-conference games against teams in the NCAA tournament. The Chanticleers were 5-8 in those games. The wins came against Kansas State (2-1), Florida Atlantic (4-1), UNC-Wilmington (15-3), and Georgia Tech (7-4 and 12-8). Coastal lost twice to NCAA top-seed North Carolina (7-1 and 5-1), Elon (8-7), San Diego (8-3), Indiana (9-1), N.C. State (5-4 in 10 innings), UNC-Wilmington (13-7), and Georgia Tech (4-2).

    Campbell’s non-conference schedule included Eastern Michigan, which finished 26-28 this season, Hartford (17-36), Lafayette (10-40), Fairleigh Dickinson (12-36), N.C. A&T (16-38), N.C. Central (27-29), Duke (26-29), and New Orleans (7-44). Non-conference opponents which finished with winning records included Old Dominion (30-24), Savannah State (33-21), Appalachian State (30-24), College of Charleston (31-26), and East Carolina (31-26).

  • dooksucksv5 May 28, 2013

    Read this and it should make sense:

  • takenly May 28, 2013

    I have no connection to Campbell, and this is one of the worst injustices I can remember. I was thinking a few weeks ago that they had an outside shot to host a regional. The NCAA is a dying organization. How sad.

  • jacamoe May 28, 2013

    This is the NCAA committee for you. Who are these bozo's? Campbell should have been one of the easier picks to be in the NCAA tourney. Raw Deal Camels. Myself, sister and mother all graduated from Campbell so this hits a heart string.

  • Smokin May 28, 2013

    Campbell deserved a shot.

  • gt_football May 28, 2013

    The NCAA sucks!!! Really 49 wins and Campbell is left out??? Please.....

  • BattlingBishop 5 May 27, 2013

    Nice piece, Jared. CU got hosed in a bad way in this deal. Pretty bad when a club puts 49 wins on the board & stays home. Then again, this is what you get when clowns try to think.

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