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  • wlcat609 Nov 28, 2013

    From what I've observed so far, college basketball this season will be one big foul shooting contest! How ironic that a d-man can't hand check an offensive player, yet an offensive player can 'clear out' a path with his free arm while dribblinbg or driving to the basket.

  • jmcdow2792 Nov 28, 2013

    I think we are already seeing a moderation in the calls that were made in some of the early games. Some of those were ridiculous with every touch being called. I agree that some changes need to be made to make the game more pure. But, it will not stay like it started off because the fans will not watch games that are nothing more than free throw contests. Either the calls or the playing style will have to change for the game to survive. My guess is both.

  • mittnfriends Nov 27, 2013

    Will we now find out who can actually move their feet and defend?

  • fbguru Nov 27, 2013

    They are calling it TOO close this year. They definitely need to call it closer but I think as of the last games I watched over the weekend, they have gone to the other end of the spectrum and need to get back to a nice medium. I would say probably only "baby blue" Carowhina players want them to call it so close...they, according to their fans, can't take it! Sad.

  • DEVILS1 Nov 27, 2013

    Make ******* adjustments and move on, play the game. Everybody has the same rules. GO DEVILS and beat 'Bama tonight!!!!

  • ezme22 Nov 27, 2013

    mooers never win

  • Toddler10-21 Nov 27, 2013

    No excuses here I can take a loss or losses unlike you. The water boy was sick also is that a excuse too?

  • Objective Scientist Nov 27, 2013

    For me the jury is still out on the impact of the rule changes on college BB... our "sample" of games with the new rules is simply not sufficiently large. That said... such changes were absolutely necessary. Basketball, never intended to be a "contact" sport - had become one! Other than "height" a players size and strength - and blatant, aggressive physical play - should never "trump'" skill in the game of basketball. For me... it is a game in which speed and quickness, ability to start and stop and change direction, to jump, to pass, catch, dribble, and shoot the ball... should be rewarded. The player who "reads" the arch/trajectory of a shot, who 'hustles" and gets the best position - without shoving someone - should get the rebound. No basketball player who is basically a "mugger" should be allowed to use mugging behavior to gain an advantage when playing defense.

  • Lost and Loaded Nov 27, 2013

    Yeah, I guess we have to back even farther to 83 find a year when NCSU did not have an excuse for failing at post season play or not even getting there.

    Other ACC teams adapt and eventually come out on top - ABCers just hate and stay in their rut.

  • Toddler10-21 Nov 27, 2013

    Excuses dating back to 1998!! Too funny!!

  • itsnotmeiswear Nov 27, 2013

    While I don't think the intent was to create more consistency between college and the NBA, one of the quickest calls in the NBA is a hand check. I like the new rules. Teams and players will learn to adapt, and I think you will start seeing more matchup zones being played.

  • todmax Nov 27, 2013

    This is just a case of the college game following suit with the NBA. They have been working steadily to get the contact in the League to a minimum and get back to the high scoring glory days of the mid-80s and they are doing a good job of it. It takes awhile for teams to adapt their philosophies and personnel though. Colleges can do it quicker with new faces coming in every year, but we are likely to see a year or two transition period. I just hope that college doesn't follow the NBA in allowing more physical play in the post season than the regular season.

  • MarcoYolo Nov 27, 2013

    honestly you can't really call the new rules a success based on the increase in scoring - the increase in foul shots being taken alone is enough to account for the marginal scoring average increase. I agree too that the major impact so far has been to SLOW the offensive flow of the game and extend games to 2+ hours of TV time. Now i'm not complaining about longer basketball games - I'm all for more college bball! I just wish the rules did what they said they were going to do: make the offense flow better and curtail the overly physical nature of low-post defending. I don't think the rules were intended to increase touch fouls in the back court or off the ball; its simply an unfortunate side-effect here early on as teams and officials adjust to how to play under / enforce the new rules.

  • Lost and Loaded Nov 27, 2013

    Defensive checking has needed to be curbed in college basketball for almost 20 years.

    The tough in the face man-to-man coincides with the disappearance of the stall and the advent of the shot clock.

    UNC lost to Utah in the 1998 final four. Utah basically manhandled the 'heels, limiting the scoring of 2 future NBA allstars - Jamison and Vince Carter. With the hand check fouls being called this season, Carolina would have won that game easily.

    It pushed UNC to adapt away from a finesse game to more physical play, now the opposite is true..can Duke adapt? It appears that UNC is better positioned to do so.

  • Tizu Nov 27, 2013

    View quoted thread


    Agreed. I think they're calling it a little too closely. Every little touch is a foul now...I've noticed a difference in the length of the games due to it as well. a game that used to last an hour and 45 minutes now lasts almost 2 hours...some are going over 2 hours.

  • ooksucks lol Nov 27, 2013

    Teams always tried to physically punish North Carolina players who were bigger, and it often resulted in injuries. I am happy to see the changes, through they need to be dialed down just a hair.

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