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  • jrt0856 Dec 7, 2013

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    Great for triangle football? LOL, I am sorry, but I would never ever pull for Duke in anything against anyone. Duke going 0-11, now that is great for triangle football. There is only UNC football.

  • Objective Scientist Dec 7, 2013

    This article and all the responses to it are "interesting" to say the least. From what I know of each team - Duke and FSU - "on paper" the match-ups and overall perusal of each teams strengths-weaknesses clearly favor FSU and the "odds-makers" are likely correct in predicting FSU winning by ~4 touchdowns. However, this is SPORT! Over many years I have played multiple sports and have been a fan of those sports when not playing. I have also been in a position to "study" sports. The reason we play the game is to determine the winner. There really is no such thing as a sure thing in sport when both teams are at the same level - i.e., Pop Warner football teams playing each other... ... NFL teams playing each other. Anyone who has followed sport know of games in which the underdog won! I use analytical statistical procedures in my work and sometimes the outcome is so "strong" it seems "100% certain" that is the way it WILL be in the population based on our sample data, but... we can never say that because there is always the possibility of error... even if it is infinitesimally small! Duke's likelihood of winning is indeed small - I agree with that - but Duke does indeed have a chance - Duke could win! Don't bet your house on it, but they could win. Stranger things have happened in the world of sport!

  • 82ndAAHeel Dec 7, 2013

    Grammar police please excuse my mistakes in last post. I have been up for 48 hours. I promise to try harder in the future not to make as many mistakes.

  • 82ndAAHeel Dec 7, 2013

    As an alumnus of UNC, by definition, I should not want Duke to win. Like a lot of others with no "dog" in this fight FSU has the best chance for the ACC to win a national championship. Thus a victory over Duke is a required step towards that accomplishment. Regardless, it is astounding how many of you seem "hiney sore" that Tudor has the "nerve" to talk about an upset. He is doing his job and discussing the game a day before the game. Most of you recognize I hope is a sports journalist, kind of what they do, like plumbers that fix leaky pipes.

    What other team in the Coastal that would not get trounced by FSU? 29 and half point spread. FSU beat Miami by 27 on the opponents field. Just let it go folks, Duke earned the right to play in this game. This is a at least great for Triangle college football.

  • 82ndAAHeel Dec 7, 2013

    Venombee, I should not be surprised with your screen name, but come on sir. I am sure there are young early teenagers that enjoy sports enough to read these comments. They hear ignorant language all the time from the internet, movies and unfortunately people in public. Why use something as pure sports talk to add to this travesty?

  • grh90 Dec 7, 2013

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    The only way Winston has a baf game is if duke can get to him. FSU O-line is beastly. Winston may have as much as 6 seconds per play to throw. If that's the case duke gets waylayed 56-3. On the other side of the ball FSU's D-Line is seriously stingy, LB's quick and powerful. duke likes to run up the middle which plays right into the jaws of the beast. On passing plays duke will get massive pressure from the DL and the secondary is great in coverage and have the ability to take it to the house if they get the INT. 56-3

  • The Ramfather Dec 7, 2013

    Back on topic, Duke does not have the talent to stay with FSU, period. I think it's great for Dookies to support their team, but at the end of the day, you need to lose. The ACC needs a Natty in it's collective trohpy case, and the bowl split will give everyone a bigger recruiting budget. Amazing you have to explain these two realities to Dookies who spent over $150K getting a degree from there, and bandwagon Dookies who did not know a football team existed 6 months ago...

  • The Ramfather Dec 7, 2013

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    Gotta love a pragmatic Dook fan...

  • rushbot Dec 6, 2013

    i gots a question for the masses..does anyone know what fsu's team speed is compared to vatech???

  • rick19 Dec 6, 2013

    Turnovers and x plays...it's what makes Fla state so good. Duke avoids these and it will be close. We'll see tomorrow night how it goes.

  • HEELSrocknU Dec 6, 2013

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    Have you seen FSU defense?..they are scoring about as much as the offense and if they don't score they usually get the ball back to the offense in really good scoring position...dook's running game will not mean sqaut.

  • cjw6105 Dec 6, 2013

    Florida State SHOULD win this one, and rather handily. However, their freshman QB knows he is expected to give a Heisman-like performance, plus he's been under scrutiny by the media for several weeks. This may well prove to be a distraction.

    I think FSU is plenty good, but I don't agree with them being #1 in the BCS, a ranking built mainly on running the score up on weak conference opponents. If the weather is cold and wet tomorrow as expected, this could adversely affect the Seminoles' passing game. Duke may have a slight advantage here.

    The oddsmakers seem sure that talent is going to blow out skills. But if Jameis Winston doesn't live up to the hype of being the Heisman front-runner, and instead has a bad game, all bets are off. Duke isn't an explosive team, but they've apparently improved their defense enough that it's keeping them in games and giving them the chance to win.

    That's what defense did on September 1, 2007 in Ann Arbor. If you're a betting person, you should take Duke and 29. I certainly would.

  • 4tarheels Dec 6, 2013

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    Not only is it a bad analogy between football and basketball, but State winning in 1983 was not as big an upset as some may believe. State was a low seed because of their record that year, however, their record would have been much better had Wittenburg not been injured for much of the season. When Wittenburg came back near end of the year, then State starting hitting on all cylinders.

  • justabumer Dec 6, 2013

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    Actually I have no idea how that turned out.

  • HEELSrocknU Dec 6, 2013

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    I too have been to a final four and it was great to sit there and watch as there was NO DOOK fans in the building.

    as for tomorrow....the weather is not the only thing that's going to be ugly.

  • bradford1959 Dec 6, 2013

    I went to the final 4 that year and it was great.carolina had to sit there and watch Duke cut down the nets.Walking through the airport on tuesday morning seeing all the carolina fans was great.

  • Big Mike Dec 6, 2013

    If the Devils can just keep it close...they have the chance to pull of the upset of all upsets. I would love to sent Tonto and FSU home on a mule!

  • 426X3 Dec 6, 2013

    Who cares what Tudor says. I hope Duke stomps the you know what out of FSU.

  • ABCers burning jerseys Dec 6, 2013

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    Take the points and bet your house.

  • Gatsby Dec 6, 2013

    Colder than usual weather mixed with:
    Ice? Snow? Freezing Rain?

    FSU = Big play team that loves to play over the top
    Duke = Grinders with (4) good RB's and excellent short yardage offense

    Huh..Wonder which team the weather favors? I tell you what...Im not saying they will twist the nail in Carolina fans side placed there by this awesome football season by pulling off the upset but I will say It could make them take a shot of Z-Quil to calm the nerves prior to going nite nite.

  • buster102007 Dec 6, 2013

    Carl Pooter, that was a bad analogy. Huge difference in Basketball and Football and NC State had a better chance than DUKE does. DUKE will be playing against grown men Saturday and will be overmatch at every single position.

  • kbkline Dec 6, 2013

    Been saying it ll week: You can hate on Duke all you want BUT they're in the championship game and your team is NOT. All your mouth running means nothing but show how unintelligent you really are. Go sit in a corner and hope that next maybe your team will be good enough to beat Duke LOL

  • HEELSrocknU Dec 6, 2013

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    And 1. is over now that Winston will not be in jail over the weekend

  • HEELSrocknU Dec 6, 2013

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    Fact...UNLV was over-rated, played in a conference with no quality teams

  • heelsforever Dec 6, 2013

    They actually have too chances;

    1. Slim
    2. None

  • dlpardue Dec 6, 2013

    Good article...I agree, who (besides the State players themselves) would have believed back then. :)

  • Maxxx Dec 6, 2013

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    Rather be on the bench than lose by 50 to the eventual national champs... the least Dook can do is perform better than NCSU did (49-17). Will they? Duke fans can only hope.

  • nufsaid Dec 6, 2013

    The trolls seem to dominate this site now. Feeding them only makes them stronger.

  • seagullrdu Dec 6, 2013

    NCSU had plenty of talent to pull off the upset. That is a common misconception that the 1983 team was a bunch of walk ons......they were good, they just had some untimely injuries during the season, but at full strength in the post season.

  • nufsaid Dec 6, 2013

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    Ignore him/her. In my experience those that make 200 (or 199) posts in their first few months rarely have much substance in them. He/she may be an exception, but I haven't seen any evidence to change my opinion.

  • Deacons Dec 6, 2013

    Alabama played a great team, Duke is not a great team by any stretch of the imagination.

  • Deacons Dec 6, 2013

    Basketball only needs a few good players to win it all, football requires a lot more plus football is a physical sport of speed and strength. You can make all the analogies you want but Duke will get crushed in the game. The only question is whether or nor FSU wins by more than the spread of 30.

  • pinball wizard Dec 6, 2013

    Two different things. Duke is going for a conference championship and NCSU won a national championship.

  • StunGunn Dec 6, 2013

    Duke may not have a chance in our opinion, but I bet those Duke players believe they have a chance. They have to.

  • PricelessGemUNC Dec 6, 2013

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    Could care less what you think. Are you the moderator on here? Nope. Didn't think so!

  • DUKE4EVER Dec 6, 2013

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    You have no credibility, you are ignored from now on.

  • DUKE4EVER Dec 6, 2013

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    Stay on the bench, warmer.

  • sportznutV2.1 Dec 6, 2013

    Duke may have no chance, but neither did NCSU in '83 - neither did NCSU 2013 vs FSU - how did that work out...oh wait they won the second half...disregard

  • bradford1959 Dec 6, 2013

    If you want to correct grammer get a job as a teacher.Education system in NC is
    Horrible we need you.

  • Maxxx Dec 6, 2013

    This article blows my mind! How can you even compare 2 different sports like this? Yeah Duke is good this year. I get it. But they are no FSU. Duke fans should expect to get blown-out tomorrow. They only way Duke will win is if the entire FSU team comes down with some sort of illness, and can't play.

  • Elem-Teach Dec 6, 2013

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    I have a life (a very enjoyable one), and obviously more educated than you. You must have received your degree from UNC.

  • DUKE4EVER Dec 6, 2013

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    Nice try, thanks for playing and giving us your best effort. Lame, very lame.

    GO DUKE!!

  • olivechapel1000 Dec 6, 2013

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    NO!

    They are much better at it.

  • ezme22 Dec 6, 2013

    Has dook cheated the way Valvano and NCST did?

  • TeaBagOnLove Dec 6, 2013

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    Oh boy! The Grammar Police! Get a life.

  • olivechapel1000 Dec 6, 2013

    Oh yeah, Duke beat Roy Willaims to win its first National Title. Hardly an upset.

  • olivechapel1000 Dec 6, 2013

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    NO!
    Disrespect to NCSU using Duke.

  • ncsufan18 Dec 6, 2013

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    Because a 6 seed has no chance of ever winning, right?

  • bradford1959 Dec 6, 2013

    I agree Duke was down 5 with under 2 minutes to play.If Hurley misses that 3 Duke loses.I will Give you a fact.UNLV ask the NCAA to delay their Probation for 1 year so they could try to repeat.UNLV was not suppose to be in the 91 tourney.

  • uncsuckiemarkie1 Dec 6, 2013

    And I remember when holes bought off JAYHAWKS in 1957!!!!!!!!!!!

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