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  • lewiskr45 Feb 6, 2014

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    I think you're over estimating the value of State. There are only a few schools that are valuable to the ACC for their teams as opposed to TV markets, think big names in basketball and football. State is middle of the pack (pun intended) in both of those sports, so the ACC is going to favor Carolina, Duke, Cuse, FSU, Clemson, VT, ND; the real money makers. Not many people outside of their respective fan bases are going to tune into a State-Miami football game or Wake-BC basketball game. The nation will watch Clemson-FSU in football or Duke-Cuse in basketball.

  • PanthersFan45 Feb 6, 2014

    Having grown up near the Syracuse area and attending college in Upstate NY back in the 80's (before moving to NC in the 80's) I can tell you Syracuse basketball has had a big following for as long as Boeheim has been there. He and Coach K have been friends for years and just last summer Coach K mentioned how he hated playing Syracuse because he's playing against a guy he's great friends with. Both coaches looked pretty fired up though when the game started. Both coaches also put a strong emphasis on "D" too. SU with the zone, and Duke with their man-to-man. Both teams had some great offense in that 1st meeting, the rematch should be a good one in Cameron.

  • dave437 Feb 6, 2014

    "North Carolina, Duke, Syracuse, Notre Dame and Louisville give the ACC five national college hoops brands. No other league has more than one."

    Michigan State....Indiana.....(possiblye even Ohio State)?

  • BlueDeviIs00 Feb 6, 2014

    Love the addition of Syracuse, ND, Pitt and Louisville. Yes, some of the age-old rivalries will take a hit, but if the new rivalries give us games like Saturday -- I'm fine with it.

    Syracuse fans, congrats on the win. Please do not act like you're taking over the conference. You will lose in Cameron for sure, and probably should've lost the first meeting with Duke but I won't go there. Duke is outstanding every single year and has the #1 recruiting class coming in next year. So pipe down, congrats on the win, enjoy it, because I think you'll end up losing twice to Duke this season (Cameron, ACC Tournament). But i'm glad you're in the conference, because UNC is lousy and we needed a new rival :)

  • Toddler10-21 Feb 6, 2014

    Big East was the best conference. Now the big east is trying to make the acc the best conference.

  • roberttherugguy Feb 6, 2014

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    Your right cosidering Warde Manuels' alma mater, he has them pointed to the Big Ten, and if expansion is being driven by football then one need only look at the new head football coach at UConn.

  • jmcdow2792 Feb 6, 2014

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    You make some good points, but don't forget that things change over time. Will Duke continue without K? A lot of these programs have been up and down over the years. What you describe may get better, or it may get worse.

  • jhilfiker2001 Feb 5, 2014

    Wow, so many bitter people out there. Are you guys mad because Syracuse came in and took over the league? Came in and took over when all you fools said it would never happen. Reality sucks.

  • cjw6105 Feb 5, 2014

    I'm a State fan who does NOT want to see more of the Duke and UNC matchups against Syracuse and Louisville.

    These rivalries may be good for ESPN and to some degree the ACC, but it is killing off longstanding ACC rivalries, especially among the Big Four schools. It might help the Blues, but it's hurting the Wolfpack and Wake Forest, who already have been shafted in this season's schedule (State got no home games with Duke or Syracuse, and Wake was left out of the ACC-Big Ten Challenge).

    State and Wake football fans have already seen their games vs Duke and UNC reduced to once every decade instead of once every season. ACC expansion has also denied State having a football rivalry with Virginia Tech and Miami, plus has dumped them in a division that is way overbalanced.

    Now, basketball appears headed in that direction, with the blessing of Gold and other media types who think that casting aside some members of the ACC in order to showcase others is the thing to do. I don't agree.

  • maddog69 Feb 5, 2014

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    Stupidest thing I've seen on any of these posts. If you can't see the value that Cuse brings than you shouldn't even be on here.

  • CombatMed Feb 5, 2014

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    Lol. UConn isn't coming.

  • roberttherugguy Feb 5, 2014

    Add to that, UConn!

  • JPack Feb 5, 2014

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    Wow! Just Wow!

  • TP4Real Feb 5, 2014

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    Liberalism? Do you hear the words that are coming out of your mouth? Of course you don't. You don't have a clue, or you wouldn't have embarrassed yourself so thoroughly with that last comment. I understand that you don't need to be intelligent or have attended a university to be a fan of their athletics, but you should at least understand what a university, ALL universities, do. Meth destroys more conservatives than an education does liberals.

  • gibbman67 Feb 5, 2014

    This the end of the greatest league...Acc is gone..Syracuse has no biz in the ACC...Liberalism has destroyed the once great ACC

  • Mr. Middle of the Road Feb 5, 2014

    I wasn't around when the original 8 broke from the Southern Conference to form the ACC but I bet there were many who mourned the good old days in the Southern. I grew up loving the original 8 (and then 7 when USC deserted) and I miss those day. To me the old ACC ended when Georgia Tech joined. Today's confernece is different but I will embrace it and look foreward to new teams and new rivalries. It will happen, and it will be quick. Saturday night was a look at the future.

  • tarheelbowman Feb 5, 2014

    One or two games against Syracuse,Pittsburgh,Louisville, or even Notre Dame doesn't make for a rivalry. The original rivalries in the ACC were YEARS in the making. The almighty dollar will ruin the game...already has made great strides in my opinion. It's a young man's game and I'll stick with my golf,fishing and hunting "games."

  • jmcdow2792 Feb 5, 2014

    Everybody will have to build new arenas that seat 35k.

  • JPack Feb 5, 2014

    Can't wait for Louisville to show up. I agree with Gold. The ACC will be to basketball what the SEC is to football. The only thing I question, and I may very well be wrong, is the assertion that ND is a premier basketball program. Since when? I know they've had good programs that got into the tourney, but so has Clemson, FSU, GT, etc. Definitely not top tier programs.

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