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  • Dana McCall Jul 28, 2014
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    Where is the program to help people finish degrees who were not athletes? (you know, the ones who got into the university's front door, the ones for whom the university was chartered?)

  • vt94hokies Jul 25, 2014

    UNC-CH is perhaps the biggest cheating University ever.

  • glasswolf Jul 25, 2014

    Seeing as Les Robinson started the same program at state in 91-92 looks like the cheats are going to do things the "wolfpack way" now....welcome to the party carowhina

  • Alex25 Jul 25, 2014

    www.unccheats.com/facebook

  • Tim Wallace Jul 25, 2014
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    Dude, there are no books let alone classrooms in chapel hill, just A's and degrees handed out. Apparently you can make the dean's list without ever going to class there.

  • wolfbitesyourheels Jul 25, 2014

    Boy, the NCAA will really put UNC on a pedestal for this and probably pay them for having all the cheating committed in the name of looking after their athletes

  • vt94hokies Jul 24, 2014

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    You're correct. And I totally agree. Another farce to keep this so-called esteemed school from looking so dismal in the eyes of future enrollees. They just want to up the percentage points for the University as being called graduates. The rankings in the academia has been going down for several years now. Look at the rankings each year. UNC is way below most in the ACC.

  • Objective Scientist Jul 24, 2014

    On the surface... this may sound good, but there are some issues:

    What about the "student"-athlete who failed to apply himself to legitimate courses, who focused on being an "athlete", who - using the resources of the university - improved his skills/knowledge/marketability as an athlete, and subsequently is making more money than even his multimillion dollar head coach? UNC is going to pay that guy's tuition and all other costs to continue to work on and finish his degree? That makes NO sense! On the other hand... an athlete who also applied himself as a student, with an appropriate balance between his academics and athletics, but due to the hours required of an athlete at the D-1 level was not able to carry a full academic load... and needs an additional year to complete his degree - providing that STUDENT-athlete with full financial support for the additional year... THAT makes sense!

  • canz Jul 24, 2014

    What a fraud. The most obvious distraction ever. It should be a given that athetes cam come back to finish their bogus degree.

    This is a complete separate issue from the cheating to keep athletes eligible, which was the whole point. They had non-existant classes to keep players on the field. The worst infraction a school could commit. Period. I assume these players dont have to actually go to class to finish their degree since they didnt go to class in the first place.

  • vt94hokies Jul 24, 2014

    Duke and loads of others have been doing this since the 70's.

  • 4tarheels Jul 24, 2014

    Good move in the right direction. Go UNC!

  • Scott Mace Jul 24, 2014
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    Wow... really? Last time... and then I have to write you off as unteachable:

    Said athletic department belongs to university which belongs to state of NC, which belongs to the citizens of NC.

    So, if money belongs to the athletic department, that belongs to the university, that belongs to the state of NC, that belongs to the citizens of NC, then it is state money. And, as a citizen of NC, that makes it "my" money, along with my fellow NC citizens, hence the "we".

    I don't think it's possible to make this any more clear....

  • justabumer Jul 24, 2014

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    Unless you are contributing money to the athletic department at UNC it would be incorrect for you to suggest that WE are funding this plan. Are you?

  • Scott Mace Jul 24, 2014
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    Yes, it is.. and this money from ticket sales and whatnot go to the athletic department. Which is part of the university. Which is a state entity. So, try to keep up... these funds belong to the athletic department, which belongs to the university, which belongs to the state of NC.

    Obstinacy will get you nowhere on this one.

  • katzpauz Jul 24, 2014

    Hope it includes a course with coloring books and crayons....

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  • Burke Evans Jul 24, 2014
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    What about the non-athletes who went to the fake classes?
    I thought this was an academic scandal. Right.

  • CherryDarling Jul 24, 2014

    Lovely... they're still getting "special treatment".....

  • Rodney Hill Jul 24, 2014
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    Not anymore ridiculous than the cheating at UNC the last few decades

  • Stilllearnin Jul 24, 2014

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    So let me get this straight, I read the article, say an athlete who goes pro earns millions of dollars than decides to come back to school gets a free ride? I can see a need base system and hopefully it will be. Athletic funds can be used to help feed all those starving athletes who aren't being fed enough.

  • justabumer Jul 24, 2014

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    Do you have any idea how ridiculous this sounds?

  • Steven Jul 24, 2014

    LOL so now they are just going to formalize the cheating and give them their sham degrees? Or are they going to have them start from scratch to get a real education?

  • justabumer Jul 24, 2014

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    Are you aware that athletic funds are raised from ticket sales, merchandise, and booster club contributions? How is that state money?

  • raleighboy524 Jul 24, 2014

    Specific recommendations to turn UNC around: remove Ross, Folt, Roy Williams, Larry Fedora, AD Bubba what's his name -- turn over UNC to an independent, truly blue ribbon trustee and his/her assistants for at least 5 years. for that period, shut down any UNC sport tainted by the ongoing scandal. yes, that means no basketball and football for at least 5 years. Bitter medicine indeed but the UNC disease calls for such a cure.

  • Curt Sherrill Jul 24, 2014
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    This should be easy - they never had to go to class or write their own papers when they were there, so they probably just have to walk on campus to pick up their degree

  • 1waves Jul 24, 2014

    So, Carolina will pay former athletes to complete their degree, and it is a formal program! ;O

  • 50s Child Jul 24, 2014

    "When you start building something you’re not sure about, you’re committed to making it work. So as we need, we will add," she said.

    Gotta pass it to see what's in it. That was such a splendid success last time.

  • euimport1 Jul 24, 2014

    that means that one out of two will be able to read at a 1st grade level? probably not ...

  • raleighboy524 Jul 24, 2014

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    Amen to that.

  • 903 Born To Be Hateddd Jul 24, 2014

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    No need for me to enjoy this any more than I have already by downing some cold ones as well... In all major sports, someone has to be the butt of the joke. In football you have the Vikings, in baseball, the Cubs, basketball, the Clippers... In college sports, it used to be Northwestern....but now it is clearly UNC and no other school comes close...

  • gtcolvin Jul 24, 2014

    Per VINCENT VEGA: Now they can finally finish those valuable African American studies degrees, and go out into the world and be.....umm....uhhhhh....oh yeah....unemployed."

    I earned my degree in AFAM in 1983, and I have always worked. In fact, I am a few years from retirement.

    A college degree is only as useful as the person who earns it.

  • Mary Boehm Jul 24, 2014
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    Seems that no matter what, if you can play sports you can get a ? college degree. The standards for college entrance should be the same for all students.....good grades in high school, community service, good SAT scores, good references, and etc. If a person can't read there shoul be no place in the college system for them.

  • heelsforever Jul 24, 2014

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    Kick back, knock the froth off a couple and I promise you won't care so much. Likewise, you could spend more quality time with your family and that would have a similarly healthy effect.

  • uBnice Jul 24, 2014

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    I agree. We now know that that was a lie with respect to its bread and butter sports for a long, long time. But if anyone read or heard about Lawrence Taylor's autobiography, there was no question that something was not right at UNC-CH.

  • 903 Born To Be Hateddd Jul 24, 2014

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    and they certainly didn't help the situation by bragging about the "Carolina Way" for decades either...

  • uBnice Jul 24, 2014

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    The bigger you are the harder the fall in the eyes of you detractors.

    And UNC-CH is large, big, huge, ginormous. Clearly there is a lot of glee from the detractors.

    It is a serious, indefensible problem but the obsession by some is truly something to behold.

  • 903 Born To Be Hateddd Jul 24, 2014

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    actually, she's met the objectives that were given to her when she was hired quite well...

    given that her main objectives were to play dumb and continue stalling the truth from coming out with bogus pressers and more 'buried head in the sand" statements...

  • Scott Mace Jul 24, 2014
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    So, the athletic department of a state university, which is obviously owned by the state, and the state IS its citizens, and "we" as citizens are not indirectly paying for this, as those funds are state property?

    Your reading "skills" may be OK, but "comprehension" seems to be lacking...

  • Wheelman Jul 24, 2014

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    "...months and years..."

    Maybe you should check yours before you comment.

  • GK N.Ral Jul 24, 2014

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    She has been chancellor for one year and has accomplished very little.

  • justabumer Jul 24, 2014

    I would like to see the numbers on the admission qualifications, graduation rates, etc. for the schools which the ABCers support.

  • GK N.Ral Jul 24, 2014

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    A few months? Check your facts!

  • LetsBeFair Jul 24, 2014

    Totally bias ... what if you had a baby, or a family tragedy, what about everyone else who wasn't so lucky?

  • LetsBeFair Jul 24, 2014

    Really? I've always felt that college is something YOU HAVE to strive to EARN. You need to effort plugging yourself in. Athletes should NOT be special.

  • justabumer Jul 24, 2014

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    Did you even read the article before you commented? WE won't be funding any of this since, as the article stated, it will be funded by the athletic department. The lack of reading skills is appalling.

  • Scott Mace Jul 24, 2014
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    ...since they obviously never went through that in Chapel Hill, sounds like a good idea.

  • paintcan Jul 24, 2014

    The Chancellor sounds like she has seen Mr Wainstein's report. Otherwise how can she be pleased about the report?
    "and I think it's exactly what we hoped and want it to be,"
    Read more at http://www.wralsportsfan.com/program-to-allow-former-unc-athletes-to-complete-unfinished-degrees/13836753/#4mLeSI1gVkBs82j3.99

  • heelsforever Jul 24, 2014

    Comments here show that no matter what you do, or don't do, the haters are going beyitch.

  • Wheelman Jul 24, 2014

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    She's only been there for a few months. If you really knew anything about this you would have known that.

  • KTS BAAAAAAACCCCCCCKKKKKKK Jul 24, 2014

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    Cuts the checks to Governor "see no evil" Martin.

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