You saying une is a flag ship does not make it so.The only thing it leads anyone in is Corruption,closely by being less than honest,and teaching others how to cheat.- Posted by walterhogan80
Quit laughing at us for calling ourselves the flagship Dookies.Carolina is the oldest school in the UNC system. It is also, by far, the highest-ranked school in the UNC system, and has the most successful athletics program in the system. I'd say those three things make Carolina the "flagship."- Posted by chapelthrill2012
I would say that the ability to investigate improprities are much easier with todays media. Computers for grades and attendance instead of putting them in grade books and attendance books as in Valvano's days. Also the internet for people to quickly receive and post information makes the comparison impossible. We do know that a system was set up at NC State to conspire to get better players into State with mo reguard for their school work. Bruce Poulton making Jim Valvano the A.D. and also basketball coach set this system and the lack of technology of the day allowed it to go undected. Whether the two can be compared, I don't know. One seems to be a conspiracy, and the other seems to be lack of monitoring with no organized conspiracy.By all definitiions, UNC is the Flagship since it was the first school in developing the University system. However, it does not make it superior to any other campus location simply because it has the Flagship title. In fact, now that it is first in NCAA/SBI/University corruption investigations, it gives a whole new meaning to Flagship. I wouldn't be so proud right now if I were you. NC State suffered from an investigation that wasn't nearly as damnaging or as conclusive as the one at UNC.- Posted by jmwbrd
I won't go so far as to say that UNC's athletic success has been built on fraudulent classes, but I know others will make that assertion.
- Posted by PacknoPrideI would say that the ability to investigate improprities are much easier with todays media. Computers for grades and attendance instead of putting them in grade books and attendance books as in Valvano's days. Also the internet for people to quickly receive and post information makes the comparison impossible. We do know that a system was set up at NC State to conspire to get better players into State with mo reguard for their school work. Bruce Poulton making Jim Valvano the A.D. and also basketball coach set this system and the lack of technology of the day allowed it to go undected. Whether the two can be compared, I don't know. One seems to be a conspiracy, and the other seems to be lack of monitoring with no organized conspiracy.By all definitiions, UNC is the Flagship since it was the first school in developing the University system. However, it does not make it superior to any other campus location simply because it has the Flagship title. In fact, now that it is first in NCAA/SBI/University corruption investigations, it gives a whole new meaning to Flagship. I wouldn't be so proud right now if I were you. NC State suffered from an investigation that wasn't nearly as damnaging or as conclusive as the one at UNC.- Posted by jmwbrd
I won't go so far as to say that UNC's athletic success has been built on fraudulent classes, but I know others will make that assertion.
- Posted by Smedley- Posted by PacknoPrideI would say that the ability to investigate improprities are much easier with todays media. Computers for grades and attendance instead of putting them in grade books and attendance books as in Valvano's days. Also the internet for people to quickly receive and post information makes the comparison impossible. We do know that a system was set up at NC State to conspire to get better players into State with mo reguard for their school work. Bruce Poulton making Jim Valvano the A.D. and also basketball coach set this system and the lack of technology of the day allowed it to go undected. Whether the two can be compared, I don't know. One seems to be a conspiracy, and the other seems to be lack of monitoring with no organized conspiracy.By all definitiions, UNC is the Flagship since it was the first school in developing the University system. However, it does not make it superior to any other campus location simply because it has the Flagship title. In fact, now that it is first in NCAA/SBI/University corruption investigations, it gives a whole new meaning to Flagship. I wouldn't be so proud right now if I were you. NC State suffered from an investigation that wasn't nearly as damnaging or as conclusive as the one at UNC.- Posted by jmwbrd
I won't go so far as to say that UNC's athletic success has been built on fraudulent classes, but I know others will make that assertion.
I'm used to seeing denial, deflection, anger. ^Bargaining right here folks. LOLOLOL! Sucks to be a tarhole.
Carolina is the oldest school in the UNC system. It is also, by far, the highest-ranked school in the UNC system, and has the most successful athletics program in the system. I'd say those three things make Carolina the "flagship."- Posted by chapelthrill2012
- Posted by AyeziggazoombaCarolina is the oldest school in the UNC system. It is also, by far, the highest-ranked school in the UNC system, and has the most successful athletics program in the system. I'd say those three things make Carolina the "flagship."- Posted by chapelthrill2012
Correct you are, sir! "Flagship" isn't an "opinion", as many confused and upset Wolfpackers seem to think...
It just IS what it IS! LOL
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