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  • zanerx Nov 18, 2012
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    Nope. It's just that everybody has known for decades that revenue-generating athletes at big time schools can get by easier academically than other students. The N&O stories try to conflate the "easy classes" issue, which is widespread, with more serious corruption (the AFAM chair changing grades, and maybe treating athletes differently than other students in his department). If they are going to make a big deal out of the "easy classes" issue, they should do it in an even-handed way.

  • randythorntonv3 Nov 18, 2012
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    Pretty much the same as you plus I had a sibling play D1 athletics at Duke.

    Big difference is, do the police investigate all citizens or just the ones they catch?

    By your logic, both you and I should be under investigation by the IRS or police for tax evasion or a bank robbery. Ecause someone we know or in our town has committed those crimes.

  • zanerx Nov 18, 2012
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    Just 35 years of casual observation, discussions with rational alums of some of those schools (at least one who attended both NCSU and UNC), and thinking about the issue. Can you offer anything that isn't tainted by your ABCer Rage Syndrome? I won't hold my breath.

  • randythorntonv3 Nov 18, 2012
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    Question. Why do they need to look at all the other schools?

    Do you have proof to share.

  • zanerx Nov 18, 2012
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    (yawn) When Kane and the rest of the N&O staff get off their lazy a--es and start looking at all the major schools in the area (UNC, NCSU, Duke, WF, and ECU), then we might have a worthwhile story about the relationship of athletics to academics. Until then, this is still just another bunch of nothing. If you have attended any of these schools and didn't almost immediately realize upon arriving on campus that some football and basketball athletes were less prepared and took an easier road academically than non-athletes, YOU were really the one that wasn't smart enough to be there.

  • StunGunn Nov 18, 2012
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    VERY well said.

  • still heelman1973 Nov 18, 2012
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    Another wusspacker who lacks basic reading comprehension skills (a common theme on this site). He didn't say anything about comparing the FLAGSHIP to the lessor schools in the system (because it is beyond comparison in that respect). He asked about comparing SAT scores of football players at any school with SAT scores of the overall student body at the same school.

  • The1 Nov 18, 2012
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    Just like she "remembered" that the Heisman Trophy is an award given to the top college basketball player.

  • randythorntonv3 Nov 18, 2012
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    So you are saying that the N&O keeps printing meaningless stories. You know Duke and State fans do not decide what goes into the paper don't you?

  • DooksucksV3 Nov 18, 2012
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    Both Dook and State get curb stomped and suddenly another non story with zero proof from a disgruntled employee comes out. They could not be more inferior if they tried, especially penizless Paula.

  • SilentSam Nov 18, 2012
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    As long as "the gift" just keeps on giving us basketball players like Isaiah Hicks and Kennedy Meeks, we're going to be just fine. hahahahaha!

    WOOOOOT!!!!

    #FLAGSHIPLBOOD!!!!

  • randythorntonv3 Nov 18, 2012
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    As expected.

  • chapelthrillv2 Nov 18, 2012
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    That's what I thought. You must be remembering wrong.

  • randythorntonv3 Nov 18, 2012
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    Sorry, it is called my memory and it is awfully good.

    Looking forward to your very predictable response.

  • Fenrir Nov 18, 2012
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    wait, wait .wait... why now would the flagship want to compare? is'nt that the definition of flagship, "beyond comparison"?

  • tarheelfan41 Nov 18, 2012
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    Has any State fan or UNC, Alabama,Oklahoma, or any other major football playing school compared the average SAT score with overall student body SAT score? Well it doesn't compare. While the SAT scores are not be all end all it is a pretty fair indicator of academic readiness for college. The scores indicate the ballers are not college worthy students as a whole, yet every school has them and most stay academically eligible. Through the hard work and long hours in the library???

  • chapelthrillv2 Nov 18, 2012
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    Gotta link to me ever stating otherwise?

  • randythorntonv3 Nov 18, 2012
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    Whatever dude, your tune has taken a 180 degree turn.

    You are basically an out and out liar.

    To bad you don't have a set to stay with your viewpoint since the beginning of this.

    And if you think a current employee opening up and speaking out is not a change, then once again, your head is in the sand. As it has been

  • chapelthrillv2 Nov 18, 2012
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    I've never claimed any differently.

  • randythorntonv3 Nov 18, 2012
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    You must not be the same guy I have interacted with for the last couple of years then.

    Or maybe the events of the last couple of years at UNCheat have finally penetrated your brain.

  • chapelthrillv2 Nov 18, 2012
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    Oh, don't get me wrong: I've always believed that UNC is better than certain other schools academically and athletically. But I was never in the crowd that believed that we had some sort of magical way to make our academic exceptions smarter once they arrived on campus. Revenue athletics are a game that every big-time university has to figure out how to play.

  • randythorntonv3 Nov 18, 2012
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    Well, the editors of the N&O disagrees with you

  • randythorntonv3 Nov 18, 2012
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    That you were in the crowd that never believed UNCheat was better than other schools. What a crock of ish.

  • chapelthrillv2 Nov 18, 2012
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    What exactly do you disagree with?

  • 1969inyourface Nov 18, 2012
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    The obsession. It pounds the mental stability of the haters on a hourly basis. LOL

    It really is the gift that keeps on giving.

  • randythorntonv3 Nov 18, 2012
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    That is probably the biggest piece of BS you have ever typed on here.

  • chapelthrillv2 Nov 18, 2012
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    Another non-story. Are people really surprised that athletes who struggle to get out of high school need help staying eligible at academically rigorous universities? The only ones shocked here are the ones that thought that Carolina somehow was above the fray, that we did it better than other schools. I was never in that crowd. If you want big time sports you have to recruit people that otherwise wouldn't get a second glance in the admissions process. Happens everywhere, which is why the NCAA won't get involved.

  • randythorntonv3 Nov 18, 2012
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    http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/11/17/2490476/insider-unc-tolerated-cheating.html

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