If McAdoo does not pick up the early 2 fouls

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  • StunGunn Jan 28, 3:56 p.m.
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    If McAdoo does not pick up the early 2 fouls, we have NO idea what would have happened... View More

    — Posted by Unc r Hypocrits

    Exactly. Kinda like "If my Aunt had ballz, she'd be my Uncle". What if doesn't mean... View More

    — Posted by StunGunn

    Sometimes, you crack me up. LOL

    — Posted by Unc r Hypocrits

    A laugh is always a good thing, especially in sports:)

  • masontom56 Jan 28, 3:46 p.m.
    Veteran

    if,if,if......

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Jan 28, 3:29 p.m.
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    i think the acc was trying to protect state and the acc. if state loses it could have been... View More

    — Posted by weakened back

    Since when does the ACC care if State sinks or swims? I hope you're right, and it's a changing of the guard in the conference. But which of the blues are they letting go in lieu of favorable status for State?

  • weakened back Jan 28, 3:23 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    i think the acc was trying to protect state and the acc. if state loses it could have been catastrophic for the pack. the acc didn't want state to become this years vt in the ncaa invite.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Jan 28, 3:18 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    i think the Tar Heels probably win the game by 8 or 10 pts. It made the Tar Heels get behind the... View More

    — Posted by weakened back

    It's a shame he got those fouls, isn't it?

    — Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

    he committed the fouls so it is what it is.

    Nice comeback by the Heels to win the second half. To... View More

    — Posted by BeastOnTheHill

    That was a nice comeback. They couldn't miss, and when they did, they rebounded the miss and put it back in. I was glad the game was only 40 minutes long. State players were completely worn out.

  • Ken D. Jan 28, 2:52 p.m.
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    I don't think it made that much difference.

    — Posted by still heelman1973

    I really don't, either. He sat for a few minutes, but maybe that helped him later in the game... View More

    — Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

    The fact is, State employed a strategy that pretty much reflected much of the pregame analysis. That is to say, if State could neutralize JMM they would have a big edge inside, which would in turn open things up for the outside shooters and penetrators. Well, they did, and they did. They went right after him and Carolina's defense crumbled.

    When JMM returned - and he did play significant minutes - he was effective on offense, but he never had much impact on defense. That's something they (Heels) need to fix, and quick. Other teams watch tape in this league.

  • larrys080 .v1 Jan 28, 2:40 p.m.
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    This thread sounds like ONE BIG EXCUSE to me! State played hard and won the game! Give credit where credit is due and stop with the "what ifs"!

  • BeastOnTheHill Jan 28, 2:38 p.m.
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    i think the Tar Heels probably win the game by 8 or 10 pts. It made the Tar Heels get behind the... View More

    — Posted by weakened back

    It's a shame he got those fouls, isn't it?

    — Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

    he committed the fouls so it is what it is.

    Nice comeback by the Heels to win the second half. To little to late. It's a tough year but we're hanging in there.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Jan 28, 2:32 p.m.
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    I don't think it made that much difference.

    — Posted by still heelman1973

    I really don't, either. He sat for a few minutes, but maybe that helped him later in the game because he was more well-rested. And Roy DID put him back in the game in the first half, even with the two fouls. He played 25 minutes, and only three players had more minutes than JMM.

  • still heelman1973 Jan 28, 12:35 p.m.
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    I don't think it made that much difference.

  • Unc r Hypocrits Jan 28, 11:20 a.m.
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    If McAdoo does not pick up the early 2 fouls, we have NO idea what would have happened... View More

    — Posted by Unc r Hypocrits

    Exactly. Kinda like "If my Aunt had ballz, she'd be my Uncle". What if doesn't mean... View More

    — Posted by StunGunn

    Sometimes, you crack me up. LOL

  • Toddler10-21 Jan 28, 10:54 a.m.
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    If McAdoo does not pick up two early fouls? It would have been him getting dunked on instead of Simmons!!

  • Toddler10-21 Jan 28, 10:52 a.m.
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    True That! I knew that would be our biggest advantage!

  • greg11 Jan 28, 10:32 a.m.
    Pro

    I love unc fans. Maybe if they had someone who could come close to guarding Lorenzo Brown they may have had a chance.

  • StunGunn Jan 28, 10:22 a.m.
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    If McAdoo does not pick up the early 2 fouls, we have NO idea what would have happened... View More

    — Posted by Unc r Hypocrits

    Exactly. Kinda like "If my Aunt had ballz, she'd be my Uncle". What if doesn't mean... View More

    — Posted by StunGunn

    Without a lineup change, nothing different would have happened. People are too focused on the... View More

    — Posted by DooksucksV3

    Totally agree! Sometimes Roy can be too stubborn for his own (as well as his team's) good.

  • DooksucksV3 Jan 28, 10:20 a.m.
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    If McAdoo does not pick up the early 2 fouls, we have NO idea what would have happened... View More

    — Posted by Unc r Hypocrits

    Exactly. Kinda like "If my Aunt had ballz, she'd be my Uncle". What if doesn't mean... View More

    — Posted by StunGunn

    Without a lineup change, nothing different would have happened. People are too focused on the symptoms instead of the underlying illness.

  • StunGunn Jan 28, 10:19 a.m.
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    If McAdoo does not pick up the early 2 fouls, we have NO idea what would have happened... View More

    — Posted by Unc r Hypocrits

    Exactly. Kinda like "If my Aunt had ballz, she'd be my Uncle". What if doesn't mean anything here. Roy need to think "What's next" - as in what he needs to do to win the next game on the schedule.

  • DooksucksV3 Jan 28, 10:14 a.m.
    Sports Legend

    I don't understand Roy's sup pattern at all. I thought Hairston should have played a lot more. ... View More

    — Posted by Tizu

    Gottfried has to slow down game play because of his thin lineup.
    Give UNC some credit, they have been down big several times this season and fought their way back into the game.

  • DooksucksV3 Jan 28, 10:12 a.m.
    Sports Legend

    UNC would have won by 30. Excuse University strikes again. PJ sould be starting, and playing... View More

    — Posted by Toddler10-21

    PJ should be starting, Hubert should be sitting......the list goes on.

    What good is defense if you can't score?

  • Unc r Hypocrits Jan 28, 9:47 a.m.
    Sports Legend

    If McAdoo does not pick up the early 2 fouls, we have NO idea what would have happened differently.

    /thread

  • Tizu Jan 28, 8:03 a.m.
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    I don't understand Roy's sup pattern at all. I thought Hairston should have played a lot more. I'm in no way, shape, or form a UNC fan, but I just don't get it. Your team is getting blown out for much of the game, and UNC had 4 time outs remaining with 5 minutes to go. Probably a good thing, though - State had slowed the game down dramatically at the 15 minute mark. If not for those TOs, it would have not been so close.

    I blame the come-back on Gottfried. That's twice this year they've had a huge lead and the other team has come back to either win, or come within 5 points of winning with under a minute to go. I don't know if it was fatigue or what, but I noticed State holding the ball a lot more at the 15 minute mark in the 2nd half and I started wondering why so early? That killed State's momentum. Yes, they still got the win, but it should have been by 15+.

  • Toddler10-21 Jan 28, 7:53 a.m.
    Sports Legend

    UNC would have won by 30. Excuse University strikes again. PJ sould be starting, and playing more. Why Roy doesnt see this is beyond me.

  • DooksucksV3 Jan 28, 7:22 a.m.
    Sports Legend

    While McAdoo's two quick fouls hurt Carolina badly, it was part of State's strategy, and a... View More

    — Posted by StunGunn

    UNC looked like the team the Globetrotters play with all of the turnovers in the game.

  • DooksucksV3 Jan 28, 7:13 a.m.
    Sports Legend

    i think the Tar Heels probably win the game by 8 or 10 pts. It made the Tar Heels get behind the... View More

    — Posted by weakened back

    McAdoo getting in early foul trouble forced UNC to change their game plan and they did not... View More

    — Posted by The1

    Roy's subbing pattern (Hairston playing 7 minutes in the second half, really?) did way more than any foul situation to hurt UNC.

  • DooksucksV3 Jan 28, 7:10 a.m.
    Sports Legend

    It was weak enough when unc fans blamed losses on injuries, now this.

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    Injuries to 3 of your starters is a real thing to everyone except you, but it is funny all of the threads whining about Ryan Kelly.

    The rest of us made no excuses for the loss to State.

  • RD n NC Jan 28, 6:55 a.m.
    All Star

    i think the Tar Heels probably win the game by 8 or 10 pts. It made the Tar Heels get behind the... View More

    — Posted by weakened back

    It's a shame he got those fouls, isn't it?

    — Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

    Indeed, I didn't sleep at all last night.

    — Posted by TsKaMF

    I actually felt bad for the good UNC fans. That was a heroic comeback in a short amount of time.... View More

    — Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

    Sometimes your posts are hilarious, i`ll give you that.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Jan 28, 6:42 a.m.
    Sports Legend

    It's a shame he got those fouls, isn't it?

    — Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

    Indeed, I didn't sleep at all last night.

    — Posted by TsKaMF

    I actually felt bad for the good UNC fans. That was a heroic comeback in a short amount of time.... View More

    — Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

    Mighty big of you not to have anything negative to say about the refs.....SMH! Unreal!

    — Posted by The Favorite

    It wasn't Hess or Valentine. Imagine that!

  • ReasonableJacobSummers Jan 28, 12:18 a.m.
    Veteran

    It was weak enough when unc fans blamed losses on injuries, now this.

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    Who's been crying about Kelly? Dooooooooh! Not a genius. Did your pee paw teach you anything?

  • MoDuke v2 is gone Jan 27, 11:58 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    If all games were officiated like this one, I would never say another word about the refs.

    Yeah it's AWESOME when they hose the other team's star player in the first two minutes isn't it? ... View More

    — Posted by Lux Libertas

    Dear ole'roy & ewenc fan(s),

    "If McAdoo does not pick up the early 2 fouls "

    Welcome... View More

    — Posted by TsKaMF

    And to yet another brainwashed ABC'er, I wasn't complaining about the calls...I was mocking... View More

    — Posted by Lux Libertas

    SUUUUUUUUUURE you were, SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURE you were!
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

  • Lux Libertas Jan 27, 11:52 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    If all games were officiated like this one, I would never say another word about the refs.

    Yeah it's AWESOME when they hose the other team's star player in the first two minutes isn't it? ... View More

    — Posted by Lux Libertas

    Dear ole'roy & ewenc fan(s),

    "If McAdoo does not pick up the early 2 fouls "

    Welcome... View More

    — Posted by TsKaMF

    And to yet another brainwashed ABC'er, I wasn't complaining about the calls...I was mocking TBK's supposed "fairness and objectivity" about the refs when the calls DO happen to go his way.

    What a hypocrite!

  • TsKaMF Jan 27, 11:11 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    If all games were officiated like this one, I would never say another word about the refs.

    Yeah it's AWESOME when they hose the other team's star player in the first two minutes isn't it? ... View More

    — Posted by Lux Libertas

    Dear ole'roy & ewenc fan(s),

    "If McAdoo does not pick up the early 2 fouls "

    Welcome to our world.

    Sincerely,

    Mark Gottfried & NCSU fan(s)

    Posted AGAIN for another brainwashed ewenc fan.

  • Hokies94 Jan 27, 10:49 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    It's kinda like if a bull frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his a--. in this title. It takes a team of players to win games. A team. A team wins. One player doesn't stop the show nor anything in life. UNC didn't prove worthy in the 1st half. They came close. Coach Gott was almost busted. Not many blow 28 points in a half. It's a good thing that it was 28 at the half. I'm a realist.

  • StunGunn Jan 27, 10:28 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    While McAdoo's two quick fouls hurt Carolina badly, it was part of State's strategy, and a reason they won the game, but so was the lights out shooting State did in the first half - State couldn't miss and Carolina couldn't buy a bucket. McAdoo needs to learn how to defend without getting called for a foul. No excuses for this game.

    In the unlikely event that Carolina would have pulled the upset, it would have been demoralizing for the State players and fans. If State had lost the game, it would have been awfully hard to get over.

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Jan 27, 10:25 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    Lol

    Someone (ok,ok, ok... A BUNCH of someones), needs a tissue.

    Love
    It!

  • Lux Libertas Jan 27, 10:20 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    If all games were officiated like this one, I would never say another word about the refs.

    Yeah it's AWESOME when they hose the other team's star player in the first two minutes isn't it?

    LMAO!!!

  • kmor2013 Jan 27, 9:38 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    you could have had jordan last night and you would have still got crushed.....wow. dont you guys have any respect for yourselves? juat wow.

  • Hokies94 Jan 27, 8:32 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    I'm biased. UNC was outplayed. They made a terrific run in the 2nd half, but this game is 40 minutes of players listening and playing hard. Duke did it. Miami has shown all how to do this.

  • Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer Jan 27, 8:26 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    Sorry, but the Heels still lose this one. State was the better team, hands down and played like it in the 1st half. The game was over, when the Heels did not take advantage of State's slow start to the second half.

  • The Favorite Jan 27, 8:15 p.m.
    Veteran

    i think the Tar Heels probably win the game by 8 or 10 pts. It made the Tar Heels get behind the... View More

    — Posted by weakened back

    It's a shame he got those fouls, isn't it?

    — Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

    Indeed, I didn't sleep at all last night.

    — Posted by TsKaMF

    I actually felt bad for the good UNC fans. That was a heroic comeback in a short amount of time.... View More

    — Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

    Mighty big of you not to have anything negative to say about the refs.....SMH! Unreal!

  • Unc r Hypocrits Jan 27, 7:24 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    i think the Tar Heels probably win the game by 8 or 10 pts. It made the Tar Heels get behind the... View More

    — Posted by weakened back

    It's a shame he got those fouls, isn't it?

    — Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

    Indeed, I didn't sleep at all last night.

    — Posted by TsKaMF

    I actually felt bad for the good UNC fans. That was a heroic comeback in a short amount of time.... View More

    — Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

    In reference to the fan on PP, I told my wife that if we lost that game, you may as well open up a huge hole and let State Nation get swallowed up. I can't remember seeing our fans so psyched up for a victory, literally expecting a win, like yesterday.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Jan 27, 7:17 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    i think the Tar Heels probably win the game by 8 or 10 pts. It made the Tar Heels get behind the... View More

    — Posted by weakened back

    It's a shame he got those fouls, isn't it?

    — Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

    Indeed, I didn't sleep at all last night.

    — Posted by TsKaMF

    I actually felt bad for the good UNC fans. That was a heroic comeback in a short amount of time. And they did it WITHOUT help from the refs, which made it even more impressive. It must have really hurt to lose after that comeback. I mean, the lead was STILL 14 points with 1:30 left, and they STILL cut the lead to 5. Carolina just couldn't miss (much) in the second half. Threes, twos, free throws, it didn't matter. The ball was going in the hoop!

    As tough as it was for the Heel fans, imagine how tough it would have been for STATE fans to see a 28 point lead disappear for our FOURTEENTH STRAIGHT LOSS to Carolina. I saw on PP where a guy said if we had lost, he would have just died right on the spot. I think a lot of us would have! It was actually an exciting finish.

    I was prepared to come on here and congratulate and NOT blame the refs. I saw a missed call here and there, but nothing that seemed conspiratorial (even to me!) If all games were officiated like this one, I would never say another word about the refs.

  • Banned by Sissies Jan 27, 7:12 p.m.
    All Star

    i think the Tar Heels probably win the game by 8 or 10 pts. It made the Tar Heels get behind the... View More

    — Posted by weakened back

    McAdoo getting in early foul trouble forced UNC to change their game plan and they did not... View More

    — Posted by The1

    I agree, it did hurt but it was just State's turn to win one. They played great with the exception of a lull once they got up to a 28 point lead. They handed it to Carolina and it was about time. I knew they were going to win deep down. Cant wait for the rematch in the house Dean built. Autta be fun. Congrats to State, and especially their fans who needed it the most.

  • unc70 Jan 27, 7:10 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    The two quick fouls on JMM hurt Carolina a lot, much the same as the many State games with quick fouls on Howell or CJL. Driving on JMM early was a good strategy for State.

    Those fouls hurt more because there were almost no other fouls called on either team, certainly not for that level of contact. Carolina needed to start well to calm down, but neither team hit a shot for nearly four minutes, and then it was State that scored. A young team playing away lost their discipline and composure. State made them pay for their mistakes. Familiar story throughout college basketball.

  • Unc r Hypocrits Jan 27, 7:09 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    i think the Tar Heels probably win the game by 8 or 10 pts. It made the Tar Heels get behind the... View More

    — Posted by weakened back

    It's a shame he got those fouls, isn't it?

    — Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

    Indeed, I didn't sleep at all last night.

    — Posted by TsKaMF

    lol

  • TsKaMF Jan 27, 7:07 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    i think the Tar Heels probably win the game by 8 or 10 pts. It made the Tar Heels get behind the... View More

    — Posted by weakened back

    It's a shame he got those fouls, isn't it?

    — Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

    Indeed, I didn't sleep at all last night.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Jan 27, 6:40 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    i think the Tar Heels probably win the game by 8 or 10 pts. It made the Tar Heels get behind the... View More

    — Posted by weakened back

    It's a shame he got those fouls, isn't it?

  • Hokies94 Jan 27, 5:55 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    Somebody is playing the "if" game? Really?

    — Posted by Unc r Hypocrits

    If. If Wood and Leslie had not had so many early fouls against Wake Forest they would have probably won....yea, we see this when they (accsinking)posts this mess. VT could have won today had we had more than 7 players on our team that are on a scholarship. Woulda coulda...

  • The1 Jan 27, 5:43 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    i think the Tar Heels probably win the game by 8 or 10 pts. It made the Tar Heels get behind the... View More

    — Posted by weakened back

    McAdoo getting in early foul trouble forced UNC to change their game plan and they did not adjust well. The lack of quality depth in the front court will continue to be a problem area this year. But I still don't think that would have made enough difference to alter the outcome of last nights game.

  • heelscheat Jan 27, 4:46 p.m.
    Bench Warmer

    Who are ya'll trying to kid, If McAdoo don't get two early fouls. If a bull frog had wings he wouldn't bump his rear. Ya'll know Coach Gott called the pack off at halftime telling them hey we can't beat them by 30 or 40 points it make the acc look bad and ol'roys stress level will rise and Dr. Yow doesn't want the jealousy factor for her hiring such a great coach.

  • randythorntonv3 Jan 27, 4:21 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    i think the Tar Heels probably win the game by 8 or 10 pts. It made the Tar Heels get behind the... View More

    — Posted by weakened back

    If Roy taught defense better then Mc Adoo would have played better defense and not fouled.

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