McCrory's call to alter higher education gets angry response

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  • The1 Jan 31, 2013
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    "If you can't get into Carolina you would have to be an and you think it's hard so that says alot. "

    What?

  • dUNCe Jan 31, 2013
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    No you're a UNC fan or maybe graduate who is embarrassed by your school and what he said about it. I'm glad to see the man I voted for is honest and not afraid to challenge the majority. If you can't get into Carolina you would have to be a little slow and you think it's hard so that says alot.

  • unc70 Jan 31, 2013
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    The attack on the liberal arts has been replayed over and over. It was actually part if the efforts that lead to the formation of what is now State. The private religious LA colleges wanted the Land Grant monies taken from Chapel Hill (competition) and only public funding of private colleges finally overcame their resistance to expanding the UNC system. (They were ok with teacher colleges, but not liberal arts.)

    While many State fans might think think this attack is aimed primarily at Carolina, you would be wrong. State supporters thought that in the early 1960's and joined in the attacks following integration, the Dixie Classic outrage, etc. They were then surprised when funding cuts hit Raleigh as much as Chapel Hill, and the Speaker Ban law prevented them hosting international experts in science and technology.

    The organized RW attack on the liberal arts the past couple of years is part of an effort to cut public funding to education at all levels. Things like that bogus study on lifetime earnings are part of that effort.

  • Unc r Hypocrits Jan 31, 2013
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    There IS hope for you! :)

  • chapelthrillv2 Jan 31, 2013
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    The same thing that athletes major in at every other D1 school. Dook has "sociology", GT has "management", NC State has "africana studies" and "parks & recreation".

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Jan 31, 2013
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    LOL

    this thread = LOT of pansy carnage

    quality control gives it, TWO thumbs UP!

    g'stuff!

  • Lux Libertas Jan 30, 2013
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    Because I actually AM GoLower!

    (You will also find me archived under Flagship_You, Silen Sam, AyeZiggaZoomba and other awesome handles.)

  • 903 mens national championships Jan 30, 2013
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    I'm guessing thrill is just saying those cupcake courses "aren't really justified". But it doesn't mean they're gonna stop using them to keep the athletes eligible. They just need to be make sure Gov Martin stays on the payroll in the event they need to run another bogus investigation to get everyone off their backs.

  • MoDuke v2 is gone Jan 30, 2013
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    Then what in H E double hockey sticks will unc's athletes major in then. The Swahili classes have gotten too hot to handle with the NCAA looking over their shoulders, so what's left.

  • MoDuke v2 is gone Jan 30, 2013
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    Why did you leave off glowy, glowy?

  • BattlingBishop 5 Jan 30, 2013
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    You forgot the k word.

  • ncstateforever Jan 30, 2013
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    I think he's calling out all the public schools, community colleges and public universities not only as you want to think, or project, only happening at UNC.

  • BattlingBishop 5 Jan 30, 2013
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    lol

  • Lux Libertas Jan 30, 2013
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    I've already been Sassie, Cojo, JacobSummers, and a "BOY!"...no reason not to add "Professor" to the list I reckon! LOL

    (Keep fishin'.)

  • BattlingBishop 5 Jan 30, 2013
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    Said the Nutty Professor.

    Those who can't do........................................teach! And some can't even do that. LOL

  • The1 Jan 30, 2013
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    It's not entirely all his fault. It is a result of all those hours spent in a dark basement.

  • Lux Libertas Jan 30, 2013
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    Has he ever displayed any OTHER emotion on these forums?

    Angry, embittered and humorless is no way to go thru life, gaynips.

    http://www.angermanagement.net

  • randythorntonv3 Jan 30, 2013
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    Well, I guess that was the only part that was false and that was just me slotting in a major from a liberal arts college to make a point.

    Enjoy that 35k salary. Living large. bbbwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaa

  • Lux Libertas Jan 30, 2013
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    Great idea!....let's just turn every state university into Wake Tech.

    SMH

    Please leave our fine university system ALONE, McClueless!!!!

  • chapelthrillv2 Jan 30, 2013
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    Truth? Not really. I didn't major in sociology.

  • randythorntonv3 Jan 30, 2013
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    Not at all, just speaking the truth.

  • chapelthrillv2 Jan 30, 2013
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    You mad, paula?

    Tissue?

    Poor thing. So obsessed with me that you can't stand it.

  • randythorntonv3 Jan 30, 2013
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    There you go bringing logic into it again and common sense.

  • 903 mens national championships Jan 30, 2013
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    So UNC grads don't stay in the state after graduation and also don't vote?

  • The1 Jan 30, 2013
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    Actually it sounds more like he is trying to use his office as govenor to mandate the cirriculum of public colleges. The following comment show just how out of touch he is with with reality

    "If you want to take gender studies that's fine, go to a private school and take it."

  • chapelthrillv2 Jan 30, 2013
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    Sounds like he's just appealing to his base...i.e. people that aren't smart enough to make it to Carolina. And I'm saying that as a conservative who voted for McCrory.

  • 903 mens national championships Jan 30, 2013
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    Sounds like State is what he believes a public university should be and UNC has fallen short of it's charter.

  • KT Returns Jan 30, 2013
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    I posted something similar to this yesterday. It's pretty bad when the guv calls you out.

  • chapelthrillv2 Jan 30, 2013
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    McCrory got a liberal arts degree and he is Governor now. A bit hypocritical of him to claim that he doesn't support them. Although I do agree with him that certain programs-women's studies, underwater basket weaving, etc., aren't really justified in today's economy.

  • 903 mens national championships Jan 30, 2013
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    http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/01/29/2641893/mccrorys-call-to-revamp-higher.html#storylink=cpy

    The governor joined Bennett in criticizing certain academic areas, such as gender studies and philosophy. When Bennett made a crack about women's and gender studies at nationally ranked UNC-Chapel Hill, McCrory said, "If you want to take gender studies that's fine, go to a private school and take it. But I don't want to subsidize that if that's not going to get someone a job."

    McCrory spoke of mismatches in the current economy. He said North Carolina still has the fifth highest unemployment rate, yet employers can't find workers with the right skills.

    "To me that means we have a major disconnect between the education establishment and commerce," he said to Bennett. "So I'm going to adjust my education curriculum to what business and commerce needs to get our kids jobs as opposed to moving back in with their parents after they graduate with debt."

    Later in the interview, he said, "Right now I'm looking for engineers, I'm looking for technicians, I'm looking for mechanics."

    Karey Harwood, associate professor of religious studies and women's and gender studies at N.C. State, said the vocational focus is short sighted.

    "I don't know what kinds of jobs McCrory wishes for UNC graduates, but his comments certainly suggest that he has low expectations for UNC students and for the state of North Carolina, which is disappointing - and insulting," Harwood said.

    The governor also used the academic scandal at UNC-CH involving athletes to drive his point.

    "It's even hit our athletic departments. Sad to say, at Carolina, our great basketball program, they took Swahili on a night study course where they didn't have to do any work and got B-pluses," McCrory said. "What are we teaching these courses for if they are not going to help get a job."

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