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  • BlueDevils00 Feb 6, 2:04 p.m.
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    Last time UNC was on the bubble (just a mere 3 years ago), that bubble popped. But hey, at least they lost to Dayton in NIT final.

    This year, UNC wins the NIT!

  • Leave it to Beaver Reruns Feb 6, 9:38 a.m.
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    I love all the NCSU posters talking about UNC being on the bubble. UNC has a down year every 4... View More

    — Posted by northstate11

    I love your reading comprehension skills. There may be one State fan that has posted on this thread, but the majority are Duke and UNC fans. The question originated by an article on ESPN, and was posted here to discuss and to have a little smack talk to go with it. Think about that, my friend.

    Anyway, another W last night that was supposed to be a W. I wouldn't start getting excited until UNC beats one that they aren't supposed to beat. They looked pretty good last night, though.

  • northstate11 Feb 6, 9:23 a.m.
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    I love all the NCSU posters talking about UNC being on the bubble. UNC has a down year every 4 or 5 and we are on the bubble. I know you state jokes would love to have been on the bubble a few more times the past 30 years. Enjoy your fun and remember we have down years and NCSU has down decades. Think about it my friend.

  • DooksucksV3 Feb 6, 8:50 a.m.
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    Yes UNC is still on the bubble. UK look solid, though. UNC can still make a run in the NIT.

    — Posted by BlueDevils00

    UNC is quickly getting off any imaginary "bubble" and with a few good wins coming up will be a solid seed in the tournament.

    Sadly for Dookies, they will probably still go deeper in the NCAA's than Dook will.

    How pathetic.

  • BlueDevils00 Feb 6, 8:41 a.m.
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    Yes UNC is still on the bubble. UK look solid, though. UNC can still make a run in the NIT.

  • Leave it to Beaver Reruns Feb 5, 2:50 p.m.
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    that would be bad for the ncaa if these 2 didn't make it. it would like tiger and phil missing... View More

    — Posted by weakened back

    I tend to agree. The ratings would take a hit. It would be like the Lakers not making the... View More

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    Of course, UNC may get in and be in that Tuesday First Four round in Dayton. That would be... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    not as hilarious Lehigh was!

    — Posted by BeastOnTheHill

    or Dayton in the jr dance the year after a NT

  • BeastOnTheHill Feb 5, 2:46 p.m.
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    that would be bad for the ncaa if these 2 didn't make it. it would like tiger and phil missing... View More

    — Posted by weakened back

    I tend to agree. The ratings would take a hit. It would be like the Lakers not making the... View More

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    Of course, UNC may get in and be in that Tuesday First Four round in Dayton. That would be... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    not as hilarious Lehigh was!

  • 903 mens national championships Feb 5, 2:29 p.m.
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    If UNC loses the games they are supposed to like State, Miami, and two to Duke then I say no way... View More

    — Posted by dUNCe

    More important for Carolina is to not lose to teams they should beat. If they only lose the... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    But UK beat Ole Miss at Ole Miss. UNC doesn't have any wins close to that one. And won't get one... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships



    If we're shopping for rating services, Jeff Sagarin has UK at #17 and Carolina at #27 - both... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    I agree, there's still plenty of time left for both these teams to prove they deserve inclusion or continue showing they don't belong in. Like Bilas says every year, it's about who you played and who you beat. UNC by selection committee time will have no problem with the 'who they played' with 6 games against state, duke and miami. But they need to go at least 2-4 against them and right now, they're at 0-2. The margin for error is paper thin for both UK and UNC.

  • Ken D. Feb 5, 2:27 p.m.
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    If UNC loses the games they are supposed to like State, Miami, and two to Duke then I say no way... View More

    — Posted by dUNCe

    More important for Carolina is to not lose to teams they should beat. If they only lose the... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    But UK beat Ole Miss at Ole Miss. UNC doesn't have any wins close to that one. And won't get one... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships



    If we're shopping for rating services, Jeff Sagarin has UK at #17 and Carolina at #27 - both comfortably in. But basketball isn't like the BCS and it's silly six-poll computer ranking. I think the eyeball test will prevail. And there are really two different eyeball tests - how competitive do the teams look when playing quality opponents is one. The other is how many eyeballs want to watch them in March. I'm cynical enough to believe that is a factor in selections.

    Both schools have the same problem. There are only three schools ranked ahead of them in their own conferences. They both have enough talent to belong in the field. They just need more consistency. Roy Williams had it right when he said his team has had enough time for learning. Now it's time for winning.

  • 903 mens national championships Feb 5, 2:05 p.m.
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    If UNC loses the games they are supposed to like State, Miami, and two to Duke then I say no way... View More

    — Posted by dUNCe

    More important for Carolina is to not lose to teams they should beat. If they only lose the... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    But UK beat Ole Miss at Ole Miss. UNC doesn't have any wins close to that one. And won't get one unless they beat Miami at Miami (LOL) or either Duke game.

    And on kenpom, UK is at #19 and UNC is at #46. So UK must be doing something right.

  • Ken D. Feb 5, 2:00 p.m.
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    If UNC loses the games they are supposed to like State, Miami, and two to Duke then I say no way... View More

    — Posted by dUNCe

    More important for Carolina is to not lose to teams they should beat. If they only lose the four games you cite, they would finish the regular season at 11-7 in conference play and be a shoo-in for the NCAAT. Even at 10-8 they are probable.

    As for Kentucky, they are a little lower than Carolina in the ratings, and are more likely on the bubble unless they start beating some quality teams.

  • dUNCe Feb 5, 1:13 p.m.
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    If UNC loses the games they are supposed to like State, Miami, and two to Duke then I say no way they get in but if they just win one of those games probaly so. The NIT is a much safer bet.

  • seedofdoubt Feb 5, 1:05 p.m.
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    UNC has not done enough, in my opinion, to be in the Dance, just yet! I believe they will get... View More

    — Posted by Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer

    Do you consider the va tech win a "quality win"?

    What quality wins do they have? What... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    Nope! I never said that it was. UNLV is the highest quality win they have. They need to get a... View More

    — Posted by Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer

    UNLV is not ranked. Not much of a quality win. Don't think any team under .700 will make it into the NCAAT unless they win their conference and snag an automatic bid.

  • Leave it to Beaver Reruns Feb 5, 1:02 p.m.
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    that would be bad for the ncaa if these 2 didn't make it. it would like tiger and phil missing... View More

    — Posted by weakened back

    I tend to agree. The ratings would take a hit. It would be like the Lakers not making the... View More

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    Of course, UNC may get in and be in that Tuesday First Four round in Dayton. That would be... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    It would be, considering how much flack they gave Pack fans for being in the play-in game numerous times in the ACC tourney, not to mention the fact that they would be playing on the floor of the team that beat them for the prestigious NIT title.

  • 903 mens national championships Feb 5, 12:46 p.m.
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    that would be bad for the ncaa if these 2 didn't make it. it would like tiger and phil missing... View More

    — Posted by weakened back

    I tend to agree. The ratings would take a hit. It would be like the Lakers not making the... View More

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    Of course, UNC may get in and be in that Tuesday First Four round in Dayton. That would be hilarious.

  • Leave it to Beaver Reruns Feb 5, 12:37 p.m.
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    that would be bad for the ncaa if these 2 didn't make it. it would like tiger and phil missing... View More

    — Posted by weakened back

    I tend to agree. The ratings would take a hit. It would be like the Lakers not making the playoffs (which looks like it will happen) or the Red Wings not making it in the NHL.

  • weakened back Feb 5, 9:58 a.m.
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    that would be bad for the ncaa if these 2 didn't make it. it would like tiger and phil missing the masters.

  • BlueDevils00 Feb 5, 9:47 a.m.
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    Yes, UNC is squarely on the bubble. The funny thing is- they haven't even started the difficulty part of their schedule. Another 6-7 losses before the ACCT.

  • The1 Feb 4, 4:41 p.m.
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    UNC needs one quality win to go with the games they should win. Unfortunately, Duke at CH looks... View More

    — Posted by rx74u2nv

    If they get 20 or more wins they will be in.

  • rx74u2nv Feb 4, 4:35 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    UNC needs one quality win to go with the games they should win. Unfortunately, Duke at CH looks like their best opportunity. UNC pretty much needs about 6-7 more wins and they are good.

  • The1 Feb 4, 4:26 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    No, you are not correct.

    — Posted by The1

    sorry sport, the adults are trying to talk.

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    Then you should stop interrupting them.

    — Posted by The1

    no, that was directed towards you. I started the thread in hopes of discussing basketball... View More

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    You asked if your statement was correct and I answered "No, you are not correct".

  • Leave it to Beaver Reruns Feb 4, 4:23 p.m.
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    UNC has not done enough, in my opinion, to be in the Dance, just yet! I believe they will get... View More

    — Posted by Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer

    Do you consider the va tech win a "quality win"?

    What quality wins do they have? What... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    I'm more worried about beating the teams that we should beat...GT, Clem...those guys.

    We do... View More

    — Posted by wmarti

    What happens if they drop one to someone they shouldn't (Clemson or Ga Tech..etc) but get the "W" against State?

    I think it doesn't matter what they do against a Clemson or Ga Tech if they beat Duke or Miami. Beat on of those two, and you're in like Flynn

  • Leave it to Beaver Reruns Feb 4, 4:17 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    So basically what I get from some of the UNC fans is that they will make the dance only because... View More

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    No, you are not correct.

    — Posted by The1

    sorry sport, the adults are trying to talk.

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    Then you should stop interrupting them.

    — Posted by The1

    no, that was directed towards you. I started the thread in hopes of discussing basketball without trolls like yourself interfering.
    I am asking a serious question and I was getting serious responses, that is of course (as usual) you came in here.

  • The1 Feb 4, 4:13 p.m.
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    So basically what I get from some of the UNC fans is that they will make the dance only because... View More

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    No, you are not correct.

    — Posted by The1

    sorry sport, the adults are trying to talk.

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    Then you should stop interrupting them.

  • Leave it to Beaver Reruns Feb 4, 4:13 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    Well if state isn't a quality win, then losing to them is considered a bad loss. Unc's chances... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    State isn't a bad loss, either. They are just a "meh". And we'll have plenty of time... View More

    — Posted by chapelthrillv2

    That I agree with. They need at least 2 wins over Duke or Miami to solidify their resume.

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    I don't care what your quality wins and losses are...but I do know that if you win 20 gms in... View More

    — Posted by wmarti

    unless your team's name is Virginia Tech. I still laugh thinking about Seth and his boys missing the dance with their conference record a few years ago.

  • Leave it to Beaver Reruns Feb 4, 4:12 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    So basically what I get from some of the UNC fans is that they will make the dance only because... View More

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    No, you are not correct.

    — Posted by The1

    sorry sport, the adults are trying to talk.

  • Leave it to Beaver Reruns Feb 4, 4:11 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    So basically what I get from some of the UNC fans is that they will make the dance only because... View More

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    In all honesty, if they can win any of these four games I think they get in, and yes it does... View More

    — Posted by anderson

    I tend to agree that winning just one of those get them in. You'd hope it was Miami or Duke, but I think a State win does it too.

  • The1 Feb 4, 4:10 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    So basically what I get from some of the UNC fans is that they will make the dance only because... View More

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    No, you are not correct.

  • anderson Feb 4, 4:07 p.m.
    All Star

    So basically what I get from some of the UNC fans is that they will make the dance only because... View More

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    In all honesty, if they can win any of these four games I think they get in, and yes it does help to have Carolina on your jersey: at Duke, Duke at home, at Miami, State at home. If they win any of those four and then win the others they SHOULD win...I think they may be a play-in 12 seed or so.

  • Leave it to Beaver Reruns Feb 4, 4:03 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    So basically what I get from some of the UNC fans is that they will make the dance only because the name on the jersey and not because they deserve it. Am I correct with that statement?

  • Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer Feb 4, 3:19 p.m.
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    UNC has not done enough, in my opinion, to be in the Dance, just yet! I believe they will get... View More

    — Posted by Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer

    Do you consider the va tech win a "quality win"?

    What quality wins do they have? What... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    Nope! I never said that it was. UNLV is the highest quality win they have. They need to get a home win over Dook or State, and win a couple in the ACC Tournament to secure a spot in the Dance.

  • seedofdoubt Feb 4, 3:16 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    No way they're beating Miami at home now that Johnson is back. Miami will likely go undefeated in the ACC. Duke has a chance...IF Kelly gets back in time to shake the rust off.

  • wmarti Feb 4, 2:13 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    State isn't a quality win as they have been exposed and are no longer ranked. I think we lose vs... View More

    — Posted by chapelthrillv2

    Well if state isn't a quality win, then losing to them is considered a bad loss. Unc's chances... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    State isn't a bad loss, either. They are just a "meh". And we'll have plenty of time... View More

    — Posted by chapelthrillv2

    That I agree with. They need at least 2 wins over Duke or Miami to solidify their resume.

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    I don't care what your quality wins and losses are...but I do know that if you win 20 gms in this league and your name is UNC...you make the NCAAs.

  • 903 mens national championships Feb 4, 2:09 p.m.
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    Quality win is a win over duke or Miami and state if they're ranked. I think they need at least... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    State isn't a quality win as they have been exposed and are no longer ranked. I think we lose vs... View More

    — Posted by chapelthrillv2

    Well if state isn't a quality win, then losing to them is considered a bad loss. Unc's chances... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    State isn't a bad loss, either. They are just a "meh". And we'll have plenty of time... View More

    — Posted by chapelthrillv2

    That I agree with. They need at least 2 wins over Duke or Miami to solidify their resume.

  • chapelthrillv2 Feb 4, 1:57 p.m.
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    Quality win is a win over duke or Miami and state if they're ranked. I think they need at least... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    State isn't a quality win as they have been exposed and are no longer ranked. I think we lose vs... View More

    — Posted by chapelthrillv2

    Well if state isn't a quality win, then losing to them is considered a bad loss. Unc's chances... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    State isn't a bad loss, either. They are just a "meh". And we'll have plenty of time to get quality wins once we play Dook and Miami (again).

  • 903 mens national championships Feb 4, 1:48 p.m.
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    Quality win is a win over duke or Miami and state if they're ranked. I think they need at least... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    State isn't a quality win as they have been exposed and are no longer ranked. I think we lose vs... View More

    — Posted by chapelthrillv2

    Well if state isn't a quality win, then losing to them is considered a bad loss. Unc's chances aren't good if they have alot of bad losses and no quality wins.

  • chapelthrillv2 Feb 4, 1:43 p.m.
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    Quality win is a win over duke or Miami and state if they're ranked. I think they need at least... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    State isn't a quality win as they have been exposed and are no longer ranked. I think we lose vs Wake this Tuesday as PJ is still out and McAdoo and Hubert have the flu....hard to compete with PJ and McAdoo out. All we need is 5 games...any combination of them, although I'd prefer 7-8 of the last 11 so we can get a higher seed.

  • 903 mens national championships Feb 4, 1:37 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    Quality win is a win over duke or Miami and state if they're ranked. I think they need at least two wins out of the Miami and 2 duke games. And hope other acc teams like UVA tank.

  • StunGunn Feb 4, 1:27 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    I can see where Carolina is on the bubble. There's still a lot of basketball to be played for them to make their case one way or the other. The road ahead will be tough, playing Duke twice and State one more time, as well as going to Miami. They're improving though and I'm hoping for the best.

  • chapelthrillv2 Feb 4, 1:24 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    20 wins+"UNC" on the jerseys=NCAA tournament lock. Only need to win a couple more games. At least eleven games left and we need 5 wins. Pretty doable.

  • Leave it to Beaver Reruns Feb 4, 1:15 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    What quality wins do they have? What quality wins will they get?

    They have that quality, legendary name across't the front of their jerseys. That should be... View More

    — Posted by Lux Libertas

    that usually is the case for schools like these two.....get in on name recognition only.

  • 903 mens national championships Feb 4, 1:14 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    What quality wins do they have? What quality wins will they get?

    They have that quality, legendary name across't the front of their jerseys. That should be... View More

    — Posted by Lux Libertas

    You may be onto something. I know that the jersey trick works on refs. Not sure about the selection committee.

  • Lux Libertas Feb 4, 1:11 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    What quality wins do they have? What quality wins will they get?

    They have that quality, legendary name across't the front of their jerseys. That should be enough.

  • wmarti Feb 4, 1:10 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    UNC has not done enough, in my opinion, to be in the Dance, just yet! I believe they will get... View More

    — Posted by Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer

    Do you consider the va tech win a "quality win"?

    What quality wins do they have? What... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    I'm more worried about beating the teams that we should beat...GT, Clem...those guys.

    We do that...we're in. We've got 10 games left and the ACC tourney. If we can't win four or five more to get to 19-20 wins...we deserve the NIT.

  • KT Returns Feb 4, 1:09 p.m.
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    UNC has not done enough, in my opinion, to be in the Dance, just yet! I believe they will get... View More

    — Posted by Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer

    Do you consider the va tech win a "quality win"?

    What quality wins do they have? What... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    Maybe they can play #100 and win?

  • 903 mens national championships Feb 4, 1:07 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    UNC has not done enough, in my opinion, to be in the Dance, just yet! I believe they will get... View More

    — Posted by Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer

    Do you consider the va tech win a "quality win"?

    What quality wins do they have? What quality wins will they get?

  • Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer Feb 4, 12:27 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    UNC has not done enough, in my opinion, to be in the Dance, just yet! I believe they will get there, however.

  • seedofdoubt Feb 4, 12:08 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    Won't move up until they beat at least two ranked teams. Lose a couple more and they will be completely out of the picture.

  • DooksucksV3 Feb 4, 11:19 a.m.
    Sports Legend

    Makes sense. Should anyone be impressed by a home overtime win over RPI #158? I know I wasn't.

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    You mean the team that stayed 3X closer to Miami than Dook did?

    — Posted by DooksucksV3

    and despite that, is Duke on the bubble?

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    They may not be on the bubble, but they will flame out right on schedule.

  • 903 mens national championships Feb 4, 11:14 a.m.
    Sports Legend

    Makes sense. Should anyone be impressed by a home overtime win over RPI #158? I know I wasn't.

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    You mean the team that stayed 3X closer to Miami than Dook did?

    — Posted by DooksucksV3

    and despite that, is Duke on the bubble?

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