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  • 903 mens national championships Feb 23, 8:25 p.m.
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    I would think any conference has to factor in that adding Duke would add quite a bit to the... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    Basketball attendance is an insignificant factor. Most B1G schools already sell out most of... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    Basketball TV revenue? Tournament appearance revenue?

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/2012/... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    Good stuff 903. Am still learning on here.

    — Posted by Hokies94

    I'm just trying to understand all of this myself since the economics of college sports appears to be in desperate need of a correction when conferences are more interested in GA Tech than Duke. I'm glad Ken is here with his knowledge on the topic.

  • Hokies94 Feb 23, 7:27 p.m.
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    Duke's value to Duke isn't solely defined by football. But I suspect its value to the B1G is. ... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    I would think any conference has to factor in that adding Duke would add quite a bit to the... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    Basketball attendance is an insignificant factor. Most B1G schools already sell out most of... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    Basketball TV revenue? Tournament appearance revenue?

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/2012/... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    Good stuff 903. Am still learning on here.

  • Ken D. Feb 23, 5:01 p.m.
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    There is no question that basketball in general, and Duke in particular, bring some value to the table. In the past 20 years, Duke has made it to the Final Four five times. If you take Forbes analysis at face value, that adds about $2.4 million a year to league revenues - assuming that their getting that far doesn't keep a different B1G school from doing so. Let's be generous and say that Duke's performance would bring in $5 million a year.

    The bigger question is whether they bring more value to the other members of a conference than the cost of dividing the total pie by one more slice. The economics of the ACC, if Duke were not already a member, might say it does. But the economics of the B1G, IMO, say no. It will cost the other B1G members about $25 million a year to share with Duke. Duke might help bragging rights more than the pocketbooks of current members. The fact that the B1G has shown more interest in Virginia and Georgia Tech than in Duke suggests their members agree with me.

    Another element in the equation is whether Duke adds value all by itself - over and above what Carolina would deliver by itself. If Carolina's presence would already deliver a substantial part of the North Carolina market, how much more could be attributed to also adding Duke?

  • 903 mens national championships Feb 23, 1:33 p.m.
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    Duke's value to Duke isn't solely defined by football. But I suspect its value to the B1G is. ... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    I would think any conference has to factor in that adding Duke would add quite a bit to the... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    Basketball attendance is an insignificant factor. Most B1G schools already sell out most of... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    Basketball TV revenue? Tournament appearance revenue?

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/2012/03/14/march-madness-a-trip-to-the-final-four-is-worth-9-5-million/

  • Lux Libertas Feb 23, 11:03 a.m.
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    That way they will have multiple schools that are currently on NCAA probation in FB. It backs-up... View More

    — Posted by TsKaMF

    Everybody does it?
    "
    As in, "beats state college?"

    History agrees with you.

  • TsKaMF Feb 23, 10:51 a.m.
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    That way they will have multiple schools that are currently on NCAA probation in FB. It backs-up the "everybody does it" claim.

  • Ken D. Feb 23, 10:45 a.m.
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    Duke's value to Duke isn't solely defined by football. But I suspect its value to the B1G is. ... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    I would think any conference has to factor in that adding Duke would add quite a bit to the... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    Basketball attendance is an insignificant factor. Most B1G schools already sell out most of their league home games. The few that don't aren't going to get much of a boost because they are lousy teams about to get a beatdown. There's a reason their fans don't want to watch them play.

    The aggregate additional ticket revenue, for all B1G schools combined, would be well south of $500,000 a year. That's pocket change in conference realignment terms.

    The fact remains that, as of today, UVa appears to be the only ACC school that has actually gotten a (tentative) invite. If the B1G wants a regional partner for them, they already have Maryland. If they don't want Carolina as their 16th member, I wouldn't rule out Missouri. They are one of the few SEC schools that would probably prefer to be in the B1G. Since they were snubbed before, their pride could be a barrier this time around.

  • 903 mens national championships Feb 22, 9:19 p.m.
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    Duke's value to Duke isn't solely defined by football. But I suspect its value to the B1G is. ... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    I would think any conference has to factor in that adding Duke would add quite a bit to the conference in basketball. Whenever Duke plays on the road, it's an automatic sellout regardless of the size of the venue. And Big Ten venues are mostly larger than ACC venues. Duke basketball also adds to the value of conference's TV deal.

  • Ken D. Feb 22, 9:03 p.m.
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    Duke's value to Duke isn't solely defined by football. But I suspect its value to the B1G is. Duke generates huge amounts of revenue from basketball that isn't shared with its conference. It would probably generate a little more TV revenue for the B1G, but not enough to pay for itself.

  • 903 mens national championships Feb 22, 6:52 p.m.
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    If the B1G were to add UNC and Virginia, they would have the major state universities of 13... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    Ken, if those moves you mentioned were to take place, we'd have two super conferences. ESPN... View More

    — Posted by StunGunn

    Actually, jgunn, I expect you would have three or four super conferences, because I think the... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    I expect some smaller schools like Wake and Duke could get left out in the cold as a result of this. Those 64 odd schools are already getting the lion's share of the pie - close to 80% - so I don't think you'd see much change there.

    Does Duke's value really only solely get defined by football?

    According to this recent article, Duke's athletic dept revenue is slightly lower than UNC and is 4th in the ACC.

    http://blogs.newsobserver.com/statenow/florida-state-virginia-lead-acc-in-athletic-department-revenue

    TOTAL REVENUES
    Florida State - 81,444,039
    Virginia - 81,321,219
    North Carolina - 78,830,350
    Duke - 78,604,895
    Clemson - 66,988,424
    Boston College - 66,197,029 N.C. State - 65,507,243 Virginia Tech - 64,801,681 Maryland - 62,612,370 Miami - 62,099,601 Georgia Tech - 60,253,966 Wake Forest - 48,776,185

  • Lux Libertas Feb 22, 6:28 p.m.
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    I'm not laughing at them being in the sec

    The rest of us are! LOL! The state college "delusion-o-meter" just went off the charts roflOLOL

  • KT Returns Feb 22, 12:54 p.m.
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    Funny, very funny, how the Wolpies are lashing out. While they THINK the SEC wants them, we get p... View More

    — Posted by hi_i_am_wade

    As usual, Big Wade puts the hammer down. A true backhand to the packers. And I do mean a real... View More

    — Posted by Constitutional-Defender

    If you want to worship a guy who has ralph wiggum as his avatar, you go right ahead. The rest of us will converse with credible people.

  • Constitutional-Defender Feb 22, 12:52 p.m.
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    Funny, very funny, how the Wolpies are lashing out. While they THINK the SEC wants them, we get p... View More

    — Posted by hi_i_am_wade

    As usual, Big Wade puts the hammer down. A true backhand to the packers. And I do mean a real knuckle scraper to the side of the face!

  • flairrick Feb 22, 12:31 p.m.
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    that is exactly where they land if the ACC implodes. You think there is no way, but is it the... View More

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    I'm not laughing at them being in the sec, just at what level of success they would have in the... View More

    — Posted by BeastOfTheHill

    So you think your football program would have success in the Big 10. Oh, and how about... View More

    — Posted by flairrick

    I think the B1G would like to be able to schedule many of its early season baseball games in... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    You mean like the Twins?

  • Ken D. Feb 22, 10:17 a.m.
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    LOL, nc state in the sec. LOL!

    — Posted by BeastOfTheHill

    that is exactly where they land if the ACC implodes. You think there is no way, but is it the... View More

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    I'm not laughing at them being in the sec, just at what level of success they would have in the... View More

    — Posted by BeastOfTheHill

    So you think your football program would have success in the Big 10. Oh, and how about... View More

    — Posted by flairrick

    I think the B1G would like to be able to schedule many of its early season baseball games in Maryland, Virginia and North Carolina instead of Minnesota, Michigan and Wisconsin.

  • Ken D. Feb 22, 10:14 a.m.
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    I'm not reading through the first nine pages of comments to see if anyone has already written... View More

    — Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

    LOL, nc state in the sec. LOL!

    — Posted by BeastOfTheHill

    that is exactly where they land if the ACC implodes. You think there is no way, but is it the... View More

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    You might be right but if State is just an average team now in the ACC... they will likely be... View More

    — Posted by wmarti

    South Carolina was just an average team in the ACC. It has taken them a while to emerge as a contender in the SEC, but they (and Vandy) have shown that it's possible, just as Northwestern has in the B1G. Being in an SEC east with Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Virginia Tech, Tennessee, South Carolina, Georgia and Florida, State would be no less competitive in a few years than they are now in the ACC Atlantic division IMO. The SEC brand is a powerful recruiting tool in football.

    As to how likely it is the SEC would invite State, I believe they would like to pick up two eastern teams, allowing them to place Missouri in the west where they belong. I agree with bmpayne812 on that point.

  • flairrick Feb 22, 10:01 a.m.
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    I'm not reading through the first nine pages of comments to see if anyone has already written... View More

    — Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

    LOL, nc state in the sec. LOL!

    — Posted by BeastOfTheHill

    that is exactly where they land if the ACC implodes. You think there is no way, but is it the... View More

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    I'm not laughing at them being in the sec, just at what level of success they would have in the... View More

    — Posted by BeastOfTheHill

    So you think your football program would have success in the Big 10. Oh, and how about baseball. I bet the boys of spring and summer would really look forward to going to Wisconsin and Minny in March.

  • BeastOfTheHill Feb 22, 9:54 a.m.
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    I'm not reading through the first nine pages of comments to see if anyone has already written... View More

    — Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

    LOL, nc state in the sec. LOL!

    — Posted by BeastOfTheHill

    that is exactly where they land if the ACC implodes. You think there is no way, but is it the... View More

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    I'm not laughing at them being in the sec, just at what level of success they would have in the sec.

    ZERO!

  • Ken D. Feb 22, 9:35 a.m.
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    If the B1G were to add UNC and Virginia, they would have the major state universities of 13... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    Ken, if those moves you mentioned were to take place, we'd have two super conferences. ESPN... View More

    — Posted by StunGunn

    Actually, jgunn, I expect you would have three or four super conferences, because I think the Big XII would have little choice but to target the remaining plums from the ACC. The PAC may or may not follow suit, just because there are few attractive teams left west of the Rockies.

    At the end of the day, I think you would have roughly the same number of schools as the six BCS conferences had two years ago, but they would be compressed into only four conferences. The size of the pie is the 64 or so schools, not the four (or six) conferences. I expect some smaller schools like Wake and Duke could get left out in the cold as a result of this. Those 64 odd schools are already getting the lion's share of the pie - close to 80% - so I don't think you'd see much change there.

    The $64 question in my mind is whether moves like this, along with growing dissatisfaction with the NCAA, could lead to the breakup of that institution.

    As for your comment about whether this is good for UNC, State or their fans - I don't think any of us can predict that. It will certainly be very different, and the nature of any new rivalries that may form will be nothing like the Tobacco Road rivalry. Frankly, my personal opinion is that it would be great for State, a little less so for Carolina. (It would suk for Wake and Duke)

    Carolina would be a southern school in a northern conference. State would not just be in a southern conference, it would be in the dominant conference, football wise. Sometimes I think being in the same conference as UNC holds State back. Older brothers and younger brothers will always compete with each other. But the younger brother will always be the younger brother. As a younger brother myself, I know I didn't always want to play in the same sandbox as my big brother. I think we were both better off for going in different directions.

  • wmarti Feb 22, 6:35 a.m.
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    I'm not reading through the first nine pages of comments to see if anyone has already written... View More

    — Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

    LOL, nc state in the sec. LOL!

    — Posted by BeastOfTheHill

    that is exactly where they land if the ACC implodes. You think there is no way, but is it the... View More

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    You might be right but if State is just an average team now in the ACC... they will likely be sliding into the role of whipping post formerly played by Vandy and such.

  • Lux Libertas Feb 22, 1:17 a.m.
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    I say go. If State remains in a UNC-less ACC, that's fine with me.

    Yeah...we bet it is!

    Fewer beatings that way LOL

  • Leave it to Beaver Reruns Feb 21, 10:17 p.m.
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    I'm not reading through the first nine pages of comments to see if anyone has already written... View More

    — Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

    LOL, nc state in the sec. LOL!

    — Posted by BeastOfTheHill

    that is exactly where they land if the ACC implodes. You think there is no way, but is it the logical move for the SEC to make.

  • StunGunn Feb 21, 10:13 p.m.
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    I'm not reading through the first nine pages of comments to see if anyone has already written... View More

    — Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

    You'd miss Carolina if they weren't in the ACC.

  • StunGunn Feb 21, 10:12 p.m.
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    If the B1G were to add UNC and Virginia, they would have the major state universities of 13... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    Ken, if those moves you mentioned were to take place, we'd have two super conferences. ESPN wouldn't get additional eyeballs, but the SEC and B1G sure would. the same pie just gets divided into different slices. I don't see where this would be good for UNC or any of the other ACC schools that might be lured away. I'm probably wearing blinders because I like the ACC and want it to keep the current schools. I don't see where this would be good for schools like UNC and State, nor their fans.

  • BeastOfTheHill Feb 21, 4:10 p.m.
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    I'm not reading through the first nine pages of comments to see if anyone has already written... View More

    — Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

    LOL, nc state in the sec. LOL!

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Feb 21, 3:39 p.m.
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    I'm not reading through the first nine pages of comments to see if anyone has already written this, but I would suspect that Carolina is sitting on this offer and waiting to see if the ACC implodes. This offer is their lifeboat (if they need one).

    I say go. If State remains in a UNC-less ACC, that's fine with me. Or maybe we head to the SEC. Either way works for me.

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Feb 20, 12:40 p.m.
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    ^^^^ correct.
    The big X couldn't care less about women's field hockey or soccer.

    Football is... View More

    — Posted by Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy

    Unc basketball more profitable than state football. Now if that dont stiiiiiiiiing what does?... View More

    — Posted by The Honorable JacobSummers

    You obviously don't get it, do you? The ignorance is truly awe inspiring.

    — Posted by Dr. Pwnt

    Poor thing couldn't "think" her way out of a wet paper bag.

    Even if u spotted her 50 IQ pts, essentially doubling what her parents gave her to work with :)

  • Leave it to Beaver Reruns Feb 20, 12:36 p.m.
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    This is not new news. There has been talk about this and other moves for many months now that... View More

    — Posted by RAA0013

    UNC has plenty to offer the B1G, SEC, etc...that's why any conference in the country would love... View More

    — Posted by chapelthrillv2

    The B1G is salivating at the possibility of landing UNC for all the reasons you mentioned. They... View More

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    If UNC goes to the B1G, I could see Duke joining in a package deal. Landing both schools would... View More

    — Posted by chapelthrillv2

    I don't think the B1G would want Duke. They really do not offer anything other than appeasing UNC for making the jump.

    A few on here think none of this will happen, and I hope they are right. But, I do not think we have seen the end of the conference realignment yet.

    I will be ACC till the day I die or it dies.

  • Dr. Pwnt Feb 20, 12:36 p.m.
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    ^^^^ correct.
    The big X couldn't care less about women's field hockey or soccer.

    Football is... View More

    — Posted by Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy

    Unc basketball more profitable than state football. Now if that dont stiiiiiiiiing what does?... View More

    — Posted by The Honorable JacobSummers

    You obviously don't get it, do you? The ignorance is truly awe inspiring.

  • The Honorable JacobSummers Feb 20, 11:50 a.m.
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    ^^^^ correct.
    The big X couldn't care less about women's field hockey or soccer.

    Football is... View More

    — Posted by Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy

    Unc basketball more profitable than state football. Now if that dont stiiiiiiiiing what does? Rofl!

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Feb 20, 11:42 a.m.
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    ^^^^ correct.
    The big X couldn't care less about women's field hockey or soccer.

    Football is EVERYTHING, period. Exclamation point!

  • cvholt87 Feb 20, 11:27 a.m.
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    This is not new news. There has been talk about this and other moves for many months now that... View More

    — Posted by RAA0013

    UNC has plenty to offer the B1G, SEC, etc...that's why any conference in the country would love... View More

    — Posted by chapelthrillv2

    The B1G is salivating at the possibility of landing UNC for all the reasons you mentioned. They... View More

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    If UNC goes to the B1G, I could see Duke joining in a package deal. Landing both schools would... View More

    — Posted by chapelthrillv2

    Nope. No offense, but you're completely off base on these realignment issues.

  • chapelthrillv2 Feb 20, 11:21 a.m.
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    This is not new news. There has been talk about this and other moves for many months now that... View More

    — Posted by RAA0013

    UNC has plenty to offer the B1G, SEC, etc...that's why any conference in the country would love... View More

    — Posted by chapelthrillv2

    The B1G is salivating at the possibility of landing UNC for all the reasons you mentioned. They... View More

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    If UNC goes to the B1G, I could see Duke joining in a package deal. Landing both schools would be a home run for the B1G, as Duke (like UNC) consistently has an excellent athletic department, has a very recognizable brand, and is one of the best schools (private or public) in the entire country.

  • Leave it to Beaver Reruns Feb 20, 11:17 a.m.
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    This is not new news. There has been talk about this and other moves for many months now that... View More

    — Posted by RAA0013

    UNC has plenty to offer the B1G, SEC, etc...that's why any conference in the country would love... View More

    — Posted by chapelthrillv2

    The B1G is salivating at the possibility of landing UNC for all the reasons you mentioned. They have to decide if they want to part ways with the ACC, but most of all Duke. The ACC will either survive all of this, or they won't. If they do not, my Blue Devils will be on the outside looking in. UNC will be what keeps the ACC alive and kicking in my opinion.

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Feb 20, 11:17 a.m.
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    Lol, so history is more relevant than the present season???

    Lmbao @ the pansies

    — Posted by Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy

    Yup. At the end of the day, no one will care that State was finally able to break its 13-game... View More

    — Posted by chapelthrillv2

    At least that billboard wouldn't be a LIE :)

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Feb 20, 11:15 a.m.
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    91-83
    Most recent and relative :)

    — Posted by Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy

    Saturday is coming, you better hide now.

    — Posted by BeastOfTheHill

    Lol
    U talking into a mirror, pansy??

    :)

  • chapelthrillv2 Feb 20, 11:12 a.m.
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    Lol, so history is more relevant than the present season???

    Lmbao @ the pansies

    — Posted by Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy

    Yup. At the end of the day, no one will care that State was finally able to break its 13-game losing streak to UNC in 2013. No one hangs banners for that. Well, I take that back....State might hang a banner for it, given that it is your biggest basketball accomplishment in 30 years.

  • chapelthrillv2 Feb 20, 11:11 a.m.
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    5>2...more significant :)

    — Posted by chapelthrillv2

    if we started listing all the accolades that UNC basketball has and ncsuX does not have, we... View More

    — Posted by BeastOfTheHill

    Very true.

  • BeastOfTheHill Feb 20, 11:10 a.m.
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    91-83
    Most recent and relative :)

    — Posted by Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy

    Saturday is coming, you better hide now.

  • BeastOfTheHill Feb 20, 11:09 a.m.
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    5>2...more significant :)

    — Posted by chapelthrillv2

    if we started listing all the accolades that UNC basketball has and ncsuX does not have, we would be here all day & night!

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Feb 20, 11:08 a.m.
    Sports Legend

    Lol, so history is more relevant than the present season???

    Lmbao @ the pansies

  • chapelthrillv2 Feb 20, 11:01 a.m.
    Sports Legend

    5>2...more significant :)

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Feb 20, 10:54 a.m.
    Sports Legend

    91-83
    Most recent and relative :)

  • chapelthrillv2 Feb 20, 10:34 a.m.
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    I love facts...I particularly love 5>2...that is a great one. :)

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Feb 20, 10:20 a.m.
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    UNC has plenty to offer the B1G, SEC, etc...that's why any conference in the country would love... View More

    — Posted by chapelthrillv2

    Except unfortunately the B1G is interested in football revenues...which you guys have... View More

    — Posted by KT Returns

    Funny thing, UNC's basketball program is more profitable than NC State's football program. I... View More

    — Posted by chapelthrillv2

    How does this have ANYTHING to do with the fact that kerlina's football can't keep up with the... View More

    — Posted by KT Returns

    Lol
    Further proof that pansies hate facts.

    It's never ending with these poor girls :)

    Fun as hades to watch!

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Feb 20, 10:17 a.m.
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    LOL
    so San Fran has been to MULTIPLE Sweet 16's THIS Century???

    LMBAO.

    pastel FAIL.

    that's literally... View More

    — Posted by Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy

    When was the last time NC State made it past the Sweet 16 again?

    Oh yeah, back in the 1980s.

    Face... View More

    — Posted by chapelthrillv2

    Lol
    And yet, here we are, on 2/20/13, with the pansies looking UP to their BIG Brother in the... View More

    — Posted by Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy

    I guess I'd be bragging about an equal 8-5 record too if youve accomplished as little as state... View More

    — Posted by The Honorable JacobSummers

    Who's bragging, pansy?? When did "stating that which is factual" become "bragging"??
    You poor lil "hurt by facts", thing.

    Chin up, pillow muncher :)

  • Ken D. Feb 20, 10:16 a.m.
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    If the B1G were to add UNC and Virginia, they would have the major state universities of 13 states that have a population equal to one third of the US. If the SEC were to counter by adding VT and NC State, they would have as many states, and slightly more population. Between those two conferences alone, they would represent half of the states on the US mainland, and 62% of its population.

    That is why this could happen. That's a lot of eyeballs for ESPN.

  • KT Returns Feb 20, 10:15 a.m.
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    This is not new news. There has been talk about this and other moves for many months now that... View More

    — Posted by RAA0013

    UNC has plenty to offer the B1G, SEC, etc...that's why any conference in the country would love... View More

    — Posted by chapelthrillv2

    Except unfortunately the B1G is interested in football revenues...which you guys have... View More

    — Posted by KT Returns

    Funny thing, UNC's basketball program is more profitable than NC State's football program. I... View More

    — Posted by chapelthrillv2

    How does this have ANYTHING to do with the fact that kerlina's football can't keep up with the other B1G teams in revenue?

    Answer: it doesn't. Keep deflecting. The Orange County Remedial College way.

  • chapelthrillv2 Feb 20, 10:11 a.m.
    Sports Legend

    LOL
    so San Fran has been to MULTIPLE Sweet 16's THIS Century???

    LMBAO.

    pastel FAIL.

    that's literally... View More

    — Posted by Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy

    When was the last time NC State made it past the Sweet 16 again?

    Oh yeah, back in the 1980s.

    Face... View More

    — Posted by chapelthrillv2

    Lol
    And yet, here we are, on 2/20/13, with the pansies looking UP to their BIG Brother in the... View More

    — Posted by Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy

    I guess I'd be bragging about an equal 8-5 record too if youve accomplished as little as state... View More

    — Posted by The Honorable JacobSummers

    Sad that this was supposed to be the best team State has had in 30 years, and all they can brag about now is being tied with a rebuilding UNC team in the ACC standings.

  • The Honorable JacobSummers Feb 20, 10:07 a.m.
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    2 national titles in basketball and then irrelevance ever since? Are we talking about NC State... View More

    — Posted by chapelthrillv2

    LOL
    so San Fran has been to MULTIPLE Sweet 16's THIS Century???

    LMBAO.

    pastel FAIL.

    that's literally... View More

    — Posted by Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy

    When was the last time NC State made it past the Sweet 16 again?

    Oh yeah, back in the 1980s.

    Face... View More

    — Posted by chapelthrillv2

    Lol
    And yet, here we are, on 2/20/13, with the pansies looking UP to their BIG Brother in the... View More

    — Posted by Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy

    I guess I'd be bragging about an equal 8-5 record too if youve accomplished as little as state has in the last quarter CENTURY.

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