banner

Duke can't develop players for the NBA. It's strange, though, that...

Return to Forum
Newest First
  • 903 Hail Providence Dec 27, 3:09 p.m.
    Veteran

    Not true. You have to be able to evaluate talent to make good decisions about which free agents... View More

    — Posted by 903 Hail Providence

    cannot evaluate talent in order to draft players

    My point was about evaluating talent to draft... View More

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    what difference does it make whether you build thru the draft or build thru free agency? the... View More

    — Posted by 903 Hail Providence

    The result is the same but the process and the skills involved are much different. Drafting and... View More

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    Nope, you have to be able to evaluate talent in order to put the pieces around your three best players in order to win it all. And that's not easy to do with the three guys on max contracts and a salary cap.

    A team consisting of LeBron James, Chris Bosch, and Dewayne Wade could win if the rest of the team consisted of AAU players.

    Then how'd they lose the Finals to Dallas in 2011?

  • kato_karma3.2 Dec 27, 3:11 p.m.
    Pro

    Not true. You have to be able to evaluate talent to make good decisions about which free agents... View More

    — Posted by 903 Hail Providence

    cannot evaluate talent in order to draft players

    My point was about evaluating talent to draft... View More

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    what difference does it make whether you build thru the draft or build thru free agency? the... View More

    — Posted by 903 Hail Providence

    The result is the same but the process and the skills involved are much different. Drafting and... View More

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    speaking of which, kiwi is pretty darn good...

    at rolling the ball out there and telling 'em to have at it.

  • larrys080 Aggies Dec 27, 3:12 p.m.
    Veteran

    cannot evaluate talent in order to draft players

    My point was about evaluating talent to draft... View More

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    what difference does it make whether you build thru the draft or build thru free agency? the... View More

    — Posted by 903 Hail Providence

    The result is the same but the process and the skills involved are much different. Drafting and... View More

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    speaking of which, kiwi is pretty darn good...

    at rolling the ball out there and telling 'em... View More

    — Posted by kato_karma3.2

    He taught Battier how to do it better than anyone.......

  • 903 Hail Providence Dec 27, 3:13 p.m.
    Veteran

    cannot evaluate talent in order to draft players

    My point was about evaluating talent to draft... View More

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    what difference does it make whether you build thru the draft or build thru free agency? the... View More

    — Posted by 903 Hail Providence

    The result is the same but the process and the skills involved are much different. Drafting and... View More

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    speaking of which, kiwi is pretty darn good...

    at rolling the ball out there and telling 'em... View More

    — Posted by kato_karma3.2

    Roy's pretty good at hiding in the locker room while telling his walkons to "have at it"...

  • larrys080 Aggies Dec 27, 3:18 p.m.
    Veteran

    what difference does it make whether you build thru the draft or build thru free agency? the... View More

    — Posted by 903 Hail Providence

    The result is the same but the process and the skills involved are much different. Drafting and... View More

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    speaking of which, kiwi is pretty darn good...

    at rolling the ball out there and telling 'em... View More

    — Posted by kato_karma3.2

    Roy's pretty good at hiding in the locker room while telling his walkons to "have at... View More

    — Posted by 903 Hail Providence

    NO TOURNAMENT THIS YEAR! OUCH MY BACK HURTS! K in 1994-95

  • The truth about MERCER! Dec 27, 3:25 p.m.
    Veteran

    cannot evaluate talent in order to draft players

    My point was about evaluating talent to draft... View More

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    what difference does it make whether you build thru the draft or build thru free agency? the... View More

    — Posted by 903 Hail Providence

    The result is the same but the process and the skills involved are much different. Drafting and... View More

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    Nope, you have to be able to evaluate talent in order to put the pieces around your three best... View More

    — Posted by 903 Hail Providence

    Even with the best talent it takes time to mold a team. Even Jordan didn't win a championship in first few years. The difference is that when you build a team by buying established talent it is more a matter of managing that talent. That is much different that building a team by drafting college players. Those players have no NBA track record to judge how they will perform on a professional level.

    As for the salary cap, there are so many loopholes that it is a joke. For instance

    The Mid-Level exception:

    Once a year, teams can use a mid-level exception (MLE) to sign a player to a contract for a specified maximum amount. The amount of the MLE and its duration depend on the team's cap status. The MLE is $5 million for a duration of four years for teams that are over the cap either before or after the signing, but did not pay a luxury tax in the previous season. Teams without cap room that paid tax in the previous season have an MLE of $3 million with a three-year duration. Teams with cap room, previously ineligible for the MLE, have a new MLE of $2.5 million with a two-year duration. The MLE is frozen at the stated levels through the 2012–13 season, after which it increases by 3% per season (with the percentage based on the initial amount of the exception, and not compounded

    The Bi-Annual exception

    The bi-annual exception was used to sign any free agent to a contract starting at $1.672 million. Like the mid-level exception, the bi-annual exception was also split among more than one player, and was used to sign players for up to two years, with raises limited to 8% per year. This exception was referred to as the "$1 million exception" in the 1999 CBA, although it was valued at $1 million for only the first year of the agreement.

    And there are many more.

  • 903 Hail Providence Dec 27, 3:27 p.m.
    Veteran

    what difference does it make whether you build thru the draft or build thru free agency? the... View More

    — Posted by 903 Hail Providence

    The result is the same but the process and the skills involved are much different. Drafting and... View More

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    Nope, you have to be able to evaluate talent in order to put the pieces around your three best... View More

    — Posted by 903 Hail Providence

    Even with the best talent it takes time to mold a team. Even Jordan didn't win a... View More

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    As for the salary cap, there are so many loopholes that it is a joke.

    ...those loopholes apply to all of the NBA, not just the Heat...

  • larrys080 Aggies Dec 27, 3:32 p.m.
    Veteran

    what difference does it make whether you build thru the draft or build thru free agency? the... View More

    — Posted by 903 Hail Providence

    The result is the same but the process and the skills involved are much different. Drafting and... View More

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    Nope, you have to be able to evaluate talent in order to put the pieces around your three best... View More

    — Posted by 903 Hail Providence

    Even with the best talent it takes time to mold a team. Even Jordan didn't win a... View More

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    903 is the typical young Duke fan. Wants instant gratification. Miami will never be considered a dynasty or one of the all time greats. Bought championship! Thank God that former Carolina greats continue to lead these championship teams!

  • The truth about MERCER! Dec 27, 3:42 p.m.
    Veteran

    The result is the same but the process and the skills involved are much different. Drafting and... View More

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    Nope, you have to be able to evaluate talent in order to put the pieces around your three best... View More

    — Posted by 903 Hail Providence

    Even with the best talent it takes time to mold a team. Even Jordan didn't win a... View More

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    As for the salary cap, there are so many loopholes that it is a joke.

    ...those loopholes apply to... View More

    — Posted by 903 Hail Providence

    I agree. So an organization that is better at managing money and re-negotiating player contracts is able to buy more talent than other teams. Miami has done a great job at that. And, as was my original point, requires a different skill set than building a team by drafting college players.

    This year Miami has the third highest team salary in the NBA at $82M. This is nearly twice as much as the lowest team (Cleveland) at $49M. This years "salary cap" is $58.679M. That is why I say that the salary cap is a joke.

  • 903 Hail Providence Dec 27, 3:47 p.m.
    Veteran

    Nope, you have to be able to evaluate talent in order to put the pieces around your three best... View More

    — Posted by 903 Hail Providence

    Even with the best talent it takes time to mold a team. Even Jordan didn't win a... View More

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    As for the salary cap, there are so many loopholes that it is a joke.

    ...those loopholes apply to... View More

    — Posted by 903 Hail Providence

    I agree. So an organization that is better at managing money and re-negotiating player contracts ... View More

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    They were able to sign the big three but putting good talent around them while staying under the salary cap takes the ability to evaluate talent. Otherwise, they would have also won the 2011 Championship instead of losing to Dallas...

Newest First

Please to post.

  • HSFB: Football Friday with Tom Suiter

    Tonight at 11:35 on WRAL-TV

  • ACC: NC State at UNC

    Tomorrow at 12:58 pm on WRAL-TV

  • SEC: Mississippi State at Ole Miss

    Tomorrow at 3:30 pm on WRAL-TV

  • NFL: San Diego at Baltimore

    Sunday at 1:00 pm on WRAL-TV

  • CFB: NC State at UNC

    Tomorrow at 12:30 pm on WRAL-FM

Scoreboard
Local
Final
NCCU 65
EILL 40
Final
NCSU 60
BSU 54
Final
PIT 2
CAR 4
Final
CHA 101
GSW 106
Final
UF 64
UNC 75
 
3rd
TULSA 17
ECU 28
 
Final
BOS 102
CHI 109
Final
CHA 101
GSW 106
Final
TOR 102
DAL 106
 
Final
DET 88
MIL 104
 
Final
ATL 100
NOP 91
 
Final
HOU 85
LAC 102
 
Final
OKC 105
NYK 78
 
Final
IND 98
ORL 83
 
Final
SAN 112
SAC 104
 
3rd
DEN 95
PHO 66
 
2nd
POR 33
MEM 32
 
1st
LAL 15
MIN 13
 
Final
WMICH 21
NILL 31
Final
SMU 9
HOU 35
Final
IOWA 34
NEB 37
Final
SFLA 0
UCF 16
Final
MARS 66
WKENT 67
Final
KSU 27
AKR 24
Final
BGU 24
BST 41
Final
UMASS 21
BUF 41
Final
EMICH 16
TOL 52
Final
MIZZ 21
ARK 14
Final
SALABAMA 40
NAVY 42
Final
ARZ 42
ARST 35
Final
AFA 27
COLST 24
Final
UCLA 10
STAN 31
3rd
VT 17
UVA 13
 
3rd
TULSA 17
ECU 28
 
Final
NCCU 65
EILL 40
Final
KU 82
TENN 67
Final
TEXAM 87
NO 65
 
Final
NCAT 57
RAD 65
 
Final
GEOR 58
BUT 64
Final
BRO 81
PVU 71
Final
RIU 66
SCU 44
Final
NARZ 70
SOUTH 63
Final
DART 68
MAST 67
Final
WRST 59
FIU 61
Final
XAV 73
UTEP 77
Final
OSU 73
JMU 56
Final
TXSOU 71
LAM 59
 
Final
TAMCC 75
MVSU 66
 
Final
AKAN 51
MIZST 55
Final
BUCK 80
PSU 88
 
Final
PROV 72
YALE 66
Final
UGA 62
MINN 66
Final
WISC 69
OKLA 56
Final
Terriers 70
NORST 72
 
Final
PEAY 62
STEPH 83
Final
FSU 58
CSOU 47
 
Final
VALPO 66
DRAK 46
Final
CIN 69
MTST 51
Final
SDU 75
PRIN 65
Final
WASU 76
RICE 74
Final
CSFU 64
USCU 79
Final
GT 61
RIDE 54
 
Final
TXPA 79
ALAST 91
Final
NCSU 60
BSU 54
Final
TCU 57
BRAD 49
 
Final
WAKE 65
DELST 72
 
Final
HART 83
EMERSON 50
 
Final
STJ 66
GONZ 73
 
Final
CLEM 62
HIGH 59
 
Final
SYR 72
HC 48
 
Final
MD 61
MON 56
Final
JVST 74
SAV 71
 
Final
MIAMI 87
SALA 75
Final
RUTG 68
VANDY 65
 
Final
PETE 66
TENST 58
 
Final
MARS 59
CLST 68
 
Final
JST 56
HOF 86
 
Final
INDST 62
MEM 72
 
Final
UF 64
UNC 75
 
Final
LATU 77
SAMF 64
 
Final
TULA 71
SELA 61
 
Final
NEB 75
TENNM 64
 
Final
MISS 75
CREI 68
 
Final
PORT 64
MURST 61
 
2nd
MARQ 57
MSU 68
 
2nd
ARK 70
UNT 60
 
2nd
NCOL 80
STET 60
 
2nd
IND 79
UNCG 72
 
2nd
SJST 60
WMICH 75
 
2nd
MNTST 89
TXARL 65
 
2nd
UVA 45
LAS 26
 
2nd
STLU 35
MSST 44
 
2nd
COLST 45
PAC 37
 
1st
UTAH 30
NDAK 23
 
1st
ILL 4
BAY 7
 
1st
UAB 7
UCLA 16
 
11:30pm Tonight
WASH
LBSU
11:59pm Tonight
UCSB
MERC
Final
PHI 0
NYR 3
Final
ANA 1
CHI 4
Final
WAS 5
NYI 2
Final
PIT 2
CAR 4
Final
NJD 4
DET 5
 
Final
BUF 2
MON 1
 
Final
CLB 0
VAN 5
 
Final
BOS 2
WIN 1
 
Final
FLA 3
OTT 2
 
Final
STL 4
EDM 3
 
3rd
DAL 3
MIN 3