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  • kato_karma3.4 Feb 10, 2014
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    Lance was sued by a New York company based on his purchase of five pieces of jewelry at a cost of $97,800 while he was enrolled at Duke University. Rafaello & Co. extended Thomas a line of credit for $67,800 so he would have the funds to purchase the jewelry. Thomas was required to, and delivered a $30,000 down payment.

    If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and waggles like a duck...it is highly likely it is a duck (and endless keystrokes from bogey does not change Lance from being a duck).

  • KT donated a coloring book to ke Feb 10, 2014
    Towel Boy

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    so you have no proof is what you're saying?

  • 903 Hail Providence Feb 10, 2014
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    If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and waggles like a duck...it is highly likely it is a duckHe doesn't.

    But it sounds like he's calling UNC's decades of academic fraud going back to Dean Smith's first championship "a duck" or something...

  • kato_karma3.4 Feb 10, 2014
    Towel Boy

    "QUACK, QUACK, QUACK!!!" - Lance Thomas

    (maybe he was working a side job for Phil Robertson...yeah, that's the ticket)

  • heelraiser1 Feb 10, 2014
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    So you are sayiing he went to a jewelry store put down 30k and based on that 30k down payment was given some time to pay the remainder of the bill.

    Pretty simple business transaction if you ask me.

    None of your business where he got the money or if the store owner agreed to let him pay the money back in a certain period of time.

    Happens every day.

  • dooksucks01 Feb 10, 2014
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    Sadly none came forward to say they gave him money. Might be because they didn't.

  • heelraiser1 Feb 10, 2014
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    Might be because they did not want to be in the public eye and Lance said it was ok they did not.

    I seem to recall you saying many many many many many many that the NCAA could presume him guilty without proof.

    So why didnt they?

  • dooksucks01 Feb 10, 2014
    Towel Boy

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    It is fun seeing you and your Dookie fan base get bent out of shape over it.

    :-)

  • dooksucks01 Feb 10, 2014
    Towel Boy

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    "Coach K loves Curtis Malone"

    `Curtis Malone

  • heelraiser1 Feb 10, 2014
    Towel Boy

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    Says the opposing fan who just cant let it go.

  • heelraiser1 Feb 10, 2014
    Towel Boy

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    Did you hear K say it? And what exactly does that prove?

  • dooksucks01 Feb 10, 2014
    Towel Boy

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    Because it was discussed in depth years ago.

  • dooksucks01 Feb 10, 2014
    Towel Boy

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    Because the pay for her position was talked about on multiple boards at the time of the purchase. But since you have the answers that no one seems to have, feel free to post which relative he secretly got his money from. I mean, Lance won't and has sealed everything......but you should have no trouble.

  • dooksucks01 Feb 10, 2014
    Towel Boy

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    And that payment was due within 15 days.

  • heelraiser1 Feb 10, 2014
    Towel Boy

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    Yep. And he missed it. Still doesn't prove a thing.

  • dooksucks01 Feb 10, 2014
    Towel Boy

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    He was given 15 days to pay the bill. As an unemployed college senior who could not afford $800 in rent and a son to a single mother making half that total per year.

  • KT donated a coloring book to ke Feb 10, 2014
    Towel Boy

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    Where in the NCAA bylaws is it illegal to enter into a stupid agreement?

  • dooksucks01 Feb 10, 2014
    Towel Boy

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    They did it to Miami players in the same boat (graduated) but K got a pass.

    Some people speculated that it might happen, but no one figures that the NCAA was so corrupt as to turn a blind eye to the rampant cheating going on in Durham with their second confirmed paid player and possibly many more.

  • heelraiser1 Feb 10, 2014
    Towel Boy

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    See here is the thing you just can't grasp. It is not up to you or the NCAA to tell a business owner how to conduct their business. Sorry,a s much as you would like to, just isn't going to happen.

  • heelraiser1 Feb 10, 2014
    Towel Boy

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    Duke still has the banner and markie is still chafed.

    Bwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaa.

  • heelraiser1 Feb 10, 2014
    Towel Boy

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    You mean like creating an entire bogus dept to keep athletes eligible. What was it like 7 or 9 of your 2005 team were AFAM majors and Hanztravel took 3 AFAM classes.

    Yeah, that is all on the up and up.

  • 903 Hail Providence Feb 10, 2014
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    Based on markie's bellyaching, he's probably upset that UNC won't need to answer any questions about PJ's impermissible benefits with a convicted felon during his time as a UNC student-athlete. Ya know, because UNC disassociated with PJ and therefore is immune from having to tell everyone what impermissible benefits he got while attending UNC...

  • dooksucks01 Feb 10, 2014
    Towel Boy

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    Sad that Dook will underachieve this season. Highest paid sports team in North Carolina at that.

    :-)

  • heelraiser1 Feb 10, 2014
    Towel Boy

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    But at least they can read.

  • 903 Hail Providence Feb 10, 2014
    Veteran

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    Sad that no one at UNC will answer questions about PJ's impermissible benefits taken when he was a student athlete at UNC.

  • BogeyBoy Feb 10, 2014
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    Wait... are you using "it was discussed on message boards" as actual substantiation of your claim of what Thomas' mother was actually making? Seriously, are you really going with that and are you simply just hoping that nobody sees how lame it is or do I actually have to ask the question of how these people on these message boards were able to substantiate their claims of what Thomas' mother made?

    I mean, I can go to multiple message boards right now and see claims that the corrupt AFAM program at UNC was started in the early 1990's after Dean Smith watched Duke win back-to-back championships because he needed a sham major to keep guys eligible. That must mean it's true by your standard, right?

  • heelraiser1 Feb 10, 2014
    Towel Boy

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    It is like talking to a torn down wall, not just a wall.

  • BogeyBoy Feb 10, 2014
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    Yeah, the Miami violations and the Lance Thomas situation were identical... except that in Miami's case they had clear proof of impermissible benefits. Other than that you're all over it.

  • rx74u2nv Feb 10, 2014
    Sports Legend

    Kenpom does not care about LT or PJ FYI.

    It does say hi though. Where PJ says "wanna get high?"

    http://kenpom.com/

  • modukev5saysbyebye Feb 10, 2014
    Bench Warmer

    Kenny Pompom is feeling mighty neglected these days. Seems that none of the holes want to talk to him any more.

  • modukev5saysbyebye Feb 10, 2014
    Bench Warmer

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    If it walks like a duck and waggles like a duke then it must be Hansbrough.

  • dooksucks01 Feb 11, 2014
    Towel Boy

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    Had Thomas simply told us where he got the money from there would be no need to speculate. The fact that he would not and still won;t and that K is silent on the matter tells us all we need to know.
    No amount of deflection or bellyaching on your part can change that fact.

    :-)

  • dooksucks01 Feb 11, 2014
    Towel Boy

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    The reason that the violations were not 'clear' in the case of Lance was due to no cooperation from Lance or from the jeweler as a result of the settlement.
    Lance swept it up as quickly and quietly as possible.
    That is the only reason that the NCAA had to drop the case.
    But innocent people do that all the time...........

  • dooksucks01 Feb 11, 2014
    Towel Boy

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    It states that you have to go down 30+ spots to find a defense as bad as Dook's.

    Sad.

  • dooksucks01 Feb 11, 2014
    Towel Boy

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    I talk about him frequently, the Dookies just don't like the parts I talk about.

    :-)

  • BlueDeviIs00 Feb 11, 2014
    Sports Legend

    KenPom says Hi!

    :)

  • KT donated a coloring book to ke Feb 11, 2014
    Towel Boy

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    Funny how you only talk about the one area where kerliner is ranked higher than Duke. You refuse to talk about the overall rankings, offensive rankings, SOS, etc.

  • dooksucks01 Feb 11, 2014
    Towel Boy

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    I find it hilarious that Dookies jumped on the Kenpom boat after disavowing it early in the season.

    Hypocrisy and Dook go so well together.

    :-)

  • KT donated a coloring book to ke Feb 11, 2014
    Towel Boy

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    You do realize that they don't care about it at all, they're just rubbing it in your face, right?

  • heelraiser1 Feb 11, 2014
    Towel Boy

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    Shhhhhhhh. No, he does not realize that.

  • BogeyBoy Feb 11, 2014
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    But that is the point though... Thomas doesn't have to show people where he got the money any more than John Henson would have to show where he got the money for his Yukon. Why is one action cause for suspicion any more than the other? Why does a college basketball player without any means of support (as you like to call Thomas) spending $30K on a down payment for gaudy jewelry have to explain where he got the cash while another college basketball player without any means of support (as you would have to call Henson as well) not have to explain where the $40K car came from?

    The issue has always been if the terms of the loan would constitute an impermissible benefit and as much as you would like to reduce the conversation to simple one liners the world doesn't work like that and more complex issues require more complex thought. That's seems to be where you get off the bus.

  • BogeyBoy Feb 11, 2014
    Sports Legend

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    1. How rare/frequent is it for the resolution of a civil settlement to require parties not to disclose the terms of the settlement?
    2. In the Thomas case, were the non-disclosure terms dictated by the plaintiff or the defendant?

    Kind of important questions to ask if you want to play the "innocent people will talk" card.

  • heelraiser1 Feb 11, 2014
    Towel Boy

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    There you go killing him with logic and common sense again. You are only going to make him mad.

  • kato_karma3.4 Feb 11, 2014
    Towel Boy

    subpoena duces tecum...

    face it bogey -- with it, Lance and dook get toasted.

  • rx74u2nv Feb 11, 2014
    Sports Legend

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    No, he doesn't

  • dooksucks01 Feb 11, 2014
    Towel Boy

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    The fishing has paid off dividends far longer than I thought they would.

    :-)

  • rx74u2nv Feb 11, 2014
    Sports Legend

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    Are your returns coming in the form of embarrassment, stupidity, or are you more diverse?

  • 4tarheels Feb 11, 2014
    Sports Legend

    It's funny how the state fans take off their red hat from football season and put on their royal blue hat during basketball season. They must have a serious identity crisis, however, with state football sinking so low, maybe they should just leave the royal blue hat on year round.

  • rx74u2nv Feb 11, 2014
    Sports Legend

    http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/307706/what/Linked for language.

  • BogeyBoy Feb 11, 2014
    Sports Legend

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    FERPA.... without it your sham academic programs bring down your whole house of lies.

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