UNC Responses today are strong, massive
Gonzo Apr 12, 7:39 p.m.
Amen Scientist! Willingham might not be entirely right, but she isn't entirely wrong either. I won't hold my breath waiting to see the report that provides a proper explanation of why an entire department of study had to create BS classes and make unauthorized grade changes. Until that one comes out, good luck rationalizing all this.
Objective Scientist Apr 12, 1:02 p.m.
I have 3 degrees from UNC - ALL earned - not one "paper-only" class on my transcript. I would LOVE for someone credible to find that this was all a "mistake"... that UNC never admitted an athlete, even a "regular student", who could not even read at the high school level. Were the 3 experts hired by UNC to evaluate Willingham's work "credible"? From what I've seen they have the "credentials" and "qualifications" to be able to evaluate the information and make a judgment. However, their findings are "tainted" by having been hired by UNC. In a case like this, the "experts" finding in favor of the University that hired them, such findings always have been, always will be "suspect". My background enables me to evaluate Willingham's assertions, although I do not have the data and other information the hired experts had, therefore limiting my scrutiny. That said... the "test" she used to assess reading ability - a huge factor in this entire discussion - is neither perfect nor the best test for reading ability... but it does tell us something about the individual's that were tested... and there are LOTS of other information about athletes who were admitted to UNC. Set aside the focus on reading ability, and ask a very simple question - were/are athletes admitted to UNC who should not have been admitted due to significant/severe deficiencies in academic ability... the ability to do college level academic work at a university such as UNC? There is certainly ample evidence that points to a resounding "YES" as the answer! That said... some seem to have interpreted all of this to mean that ALL UNC athletes are deficient in reading and academic ability. That is NOT the case! Most UNC athletes are quite capable in the classroom... it is only a relative few who are lacking. But... those few are a few too many - they should never have been admitted. McAdoo (football McAdoo) is a prime example! UNC's handling of this entire "MESS" has been misguided, "clumsy" and too defensive!
ClassyTarHeel Apr 12, 12:07 p.m.
This story is FINALLY getting some airplay, despite the anti-UNC media's best efforts to keep it hidden and buried.
Looks like yet another ABCER weekend now lays in ruins.
Hee hee hee hee that makes me grin.
PackFanaticInTheHouse Apr 11, 8:50 p.m.
And Bingo was his nameo.....
modukev5saysbyebye Apr 11, 7:54 p.m.
Who is paying the salary of these "outside experts".
See my dog won't bite my hand either. It's important to determine who is doing the feeding.
heelraiser3 Apr 11, 5:59 p.m.
What I enjoy is mocking your lack of intelligence while you attempt to mock others.
Nope, didn't go to Duke but have a 4 year and graduate degree.
Oh, btw, neither of my alma maters had phony depts created to keep athletes eligible for the last 30 years and is an embarrassment to its state.
903isacoward Apr 11, 5:49 p.m.
proudly admitted and a graduate..unlike you and dook...not surprising.
but enjoy playing grammar policeman......i'm sure qtip has a picture for that, too.
KT lols at internet tough girls Apr 11, 5:46 p.m.
You're giving her an awful lot of credit
heelraiser3 Apr 11, 5:42 p.m.
Uh uh, looks like you must be one of those 3rd graders who got admitted to UNCheat.
Psycho-T Apr 11, 5:05 p.m.
You have heelraiser3 on a string!!! Fun to watch!!!
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