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Former UNC chancellor: 'I would dismantle the NCAA'

Posted October 6, 2011
Updated October 7, 2011

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— When University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Chancellor Holden Thorp fired coach Butch Davis in July, he said it was because what started as an athletic problem spilled over into academics.

The school is amid a year-long NCAA investigation.

But many are questioning the association's power, including former UNC Chancellor James Moeser.

“If I could be God, I would dismantle the NCAA. I think the time has come for federal intervention,” Moeser said during an interview with WCHL radio on Thursday. “This is a train that is at some point going to run off the tracks. I don’t think it is a sustainable model.”

Moeser isn’t alone in his opinion that there needs to be a change with the NCAA.

“I would agree that it is pretty weak,” UNC senior Jonathan Herrera said. “I think it’s out of touch with the realities of being a scholarship athlete or even a non-scholarship athlete.”

Bill Friday, who was president of the UNC System for 30 years, said the NCAA cannot be removed without having something to take its place. He admitted that he nor others have the answer just yet.

“I think that money interest has gotten such a control over the universities and athletics that no one is in charge,” Friday said.

Former UNC Chancellor speaks out on NCAA Former UNC Chancellor speaks out on NCAA

Friday said he knows distinguished professors who make tens of thousands of dollars less than assistant athletic coaches and says the draw of money through athletics is allowing sports to overshadow academics, which should be the main focus of any institution.

“I think that Carolina as a university is known for its academics,” UNC junior Colleen Day said. “We also have good athletics, and I think they work really well together to create an awesome university experience.”

For now, academics and athletics remain tied together at universities, but academic leaders say there needs to be a better balance of power.

Moeser said Thursday that college athletes should be better compensated, but he does not think they should be directly paid to play.

UNC is set to meet with the NCAA about its infractions and the football investigation Oct. 28.

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  • lmartin152 Oct 8, 2011

    ^ "Marvin Austin was given a scholarship for his academic enhancement"

    Oops.

  • genesmith2 Oct 8, 2011

    I used to think the NCAA was just, fair and necessary for the good of college sports, but I never looked at the issue closely. If nothing else changes your mind, the idea that they can permanently ban a young kid from sports is ridiculous. Punish him for a time, but there should be some road to redemption. Even SMU had a limit to their death sentence.
    Look at the lack of consistency across the board. UNC players banned for life. Five players from Ohio State, who are known to be tainted for the previous 2 years, are allowed to play in the bowl game, and receive punishment the next year, if they stay in school. Ohio State wins the Sugar Bowl, gets the 17 mil payout, and then forfeits the game because of the same 5 players. Why play a game if it is must be forfeited afterwards? Where is the logic in that, other than the 17 mil paid to the Big Ten? The NCAA is about the integrity of the game or about the money? The Big Ten also keeps the 17+ million from the payout of the 2010 Fiesta Bowl (Pryor was taking Tatoo money then too).
    Then look at the NCAA's treatment of injured players. Their lawyers coined the phrase, "student athlete" to avoid any liability. The average fan thinks that football scholarships are given to kids to play football at the school. Wrong! If so, this would create a liability to the school for injuries. So the NCAA claims that schools are ONLY about education, and thus the scholarship is ONLY for the kid's education. The kid volunteers to play the sport, and thus no liability is created. Did you know that Marvin Austin was given a scholarship for his academic enhancement, and just happened to play football?
    Regardless of what you think of UNC, the NCAA needs to be dismantled and a less hypocritical approach found.

  • VT1994Hokie Oct 7, 2011

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    Oh right unc 70. You have been the only one to even mention the esteemed Moeser on here. He did indeed hire Davis and Blake under his watch. Why they hired him is a huge question. But, to come out and state what he stated if he was God...If... He shouldn't have been allowed to even voice this mess. Just another way to blow up another story for WRAL. It's getting kinda cheap in way too many these days.

  • VT1994Hokie Oct 7, 2011

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    Ken D. You hit the nail on the head in your first paragraph. That's all I needed to read. State can't say much about that stat.

  • lmartin152 Oct 7, 2011

    Again, I just find it very interesting that no one with a direct connection to UNC has ever gone public with a complaint against the NCAA until this investigation into UNC's football program. I realize James Moeser is no longer the Chancellor at UNC-Chapel Hill, but he's the immediate past one, isn't he? I realize he wasn't going all loose cannon on us, that a question was posed to him, but unless he was an immediate past Chancellor of a school currently under investigation and facing a hearing in about three weeks, he wouldn't have been asked the question in the first place, would he?

    What has changed about the NCAA from the SMU days, or the USC days, or the Ohio State days up until this statement? How has the NCAA suddenly deteriorated to the point that they need to be dismantled now? We sure as hell didn't hear any of this in 1990. What has changed with the NCAA in the last 20 or so years?

  • jdupree Oct 7, 2011

    The NCAA says the same thing about UNC football!

  • Ken D. Oct 7, 2011

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    Actually, this isn't a smack talk forum. It's a news story. But after one reads most of the posts here, I can understand your confusion.

  • johnmiltonrules Oct 7, 2011

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    I told you,it's been going on forFIFTY YEARS,COUNT THEM FIFTY YEARS..........

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again02 Oct 7, 2011

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    Nah, those people just got sloppy. This stuff has been going on for years at Carolina. We'll probably never know what all has gone on with the basketball program, unless someone has a "Miami moment" and spills the beans.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again02 Oct 7, 2011

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    These are smack talk forums, you know. I was aiming to get a laugh, not get scolded!

    I don't really care either way on this subject. I think they need to have more bite and less bark. The governing body of collegiate athletics, whatever we call it, needs to be allowed to "govern" without regard to money. But the school presidents don't really care about that. What they care about IS money. So unless and until that changes, whatever the governing body is, it will be all bark and no bite.

    So I don't really care. Nothing's going to change.

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