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Wes Miller knew UNC vs NCSU game was different

Posted February 22, 2011

A rival by definition is one who attempts to equal or surpass another, or who pursues the same object as another.  

When comparing the UNC and NC State basketball rivalry recently, you could make a case that the Wolfpack has not held up their end of the bargain too often. They have lost 15 out of 16 to the Tar Heels.  

This may be the reason why the upcoming game on Wednesday night at the RBC Center doesn't seem to be generating as much talk as usual.

Wes Miller, who was a member of the 2005 UNC team that captured the national championship, said that recent results have done nothing to squelch the rivalry.

In an interview Tuesday on 620AM The Buzz, Miller said, "Everybody nationally talks about the Duke rivalry, but the State/Carolina rivalry is really big, maybe even bigger sometimes in the area."  

Miller was a part of talented Tar Heel squads that beat NC State six out of seven games. Each was an anticipated game with a little extra incentive, he said.

"We were pretty good when I was in school. We were kind of the biggest game on everybody's schedule, but absolutely (felt) a little something extra when we went over to Raleigh," Miller said.

While the rivalry hasn't been as competitive in recent years as it has been in the post, Miller believes the balance of power will even out over time.

"Even if it gets a little lopsided, it won't be lopsided for a long period of time," he said.

"This is Tobacco Road, the Triangle, this is the best college basketball in the country. It goes through its ebbs and flows but Duke, North Carolina, NC State are always going to be really good in college basketball."


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  • sbas2 Feb 23, 2011

    the rivalry between UNC and State is more than just the men'sbasketball games as it includes at least all the major sports: men's basketball, football, women's basketball, and baseball.
    lately, State hasn't done well in men's basketball, but Kellie Harper is 2 and 2 against UNC in women's basketball,the football team has won 4 in a row and baseball holds its own against UNC.
    even though State has won 4 in a row against UNC in football, i hold the football game against UNC as the most important regular season game. if State happens to win 10 in a row in football, i will feel the same way.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again02 Feb 22, 2011

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    Well, 1989. But who's picking nits?

    State won the ACC championship in 1987, and won the mythical "regular season championship" in 1989. It was only after the NCAA scandal that we took ourselves down and kept ourselves down. We just hope that eventually our administration will finally let us compete once again.

  • soxnbraves Feb 22, 2011

    Thank you Wes Miller for speaking the truth.

  • StunGunn Feb 22, 2011

    I agree with Wes Miller: That Tobacco Road is the BEST college basketball in the country. When Carolina plays State or Duke (BOTH rivals in my book), records go out the window. The "better" (according to polls) team doesn't always win, and anything can happen in this rivalry. I expect a very hard fought game tomorrow night, and I'm not sure who will win; both teams have had their struggles as well as their victories. Good luck to both teams, and may the better team on the court tomorrow win the game, and no players get injured.

  • SAC71GOPACK Feb 22, 2011

    LOL, what rivalry?
    Someone should prolly let monkeyboy know, the Pack has MULTIPLE ACC titles since '83.
    Don't, and just let her/him continue to wallow in its own ignoarance.
    I'm good either way.

  • monkeyboy Feb 22, 2011

    "This is Tobacco Road, the Triangle, this is the best college basketball in the country."

    well sure, on two points of the triangle. that 3rd point seems to be the weak link nowadays (and has been since 1983) ...

  • pack-man Feb 22, 2011

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    this is more NCSU's arena than the hurricane's. they were about to build it when the hurricanes came along and asked to partner if they chip in for all the upgrades. in the not so distant future, a decision will come for the hurricanes whether they leave the arena and build a new arena downtown, or move to another city. NCSU will not have this option, its their land and adjacent to their football stadium. like it or not, NCSU isn't leaving the RBC Center for a long long time. Why should they, it is a world class venue that most programs envy. just need to get a winning program in there and that place will rock. reynolds was great back in the day, but i remember thinking at games what a dump it was and complaining because i couldn't see much. the only advantage was the noise-level and trash talking. state outgrew reynolds unfortunately, but everything progresses. perhaps our current students aren't as rowdy as they use to be in the past. who knows what the problem is.

  • jstucker Feb 22, 2011

    UNC hasn't lost to NC State in basketball since February 3rd, 2007. NC State hasn't lost to UNC in football since November 18th, 2006.

    Using the seasonal runs on teams to belittle the rivalry doesn't make sense- UNC would still consider Duke its rival, though Duke hasn't beat UNC in a football game since 2003.

    Glad he was at least defending the rivalry, as opposed to the fans who chant "not our rivals."

  • packfan79 Feb 22, 2011

    Finally, a class statement from a Tar Heel. Sure beats what Hatchell had to say after getting it handed to her team last night!

  • edwh14 Feb 22, 2011

    The Wolfpack will never return its basketball program to a level that we saw back in the 70"s and 80's until we get the home games back in Reynolds where they belong and out of that hockey arena they call the RBC center. NCSU is the only team in the ACC that does not have a home court. Look at the ceiling in the RBC center; what do you see? Nothing but hockey flags. It is difficult to find the 2 NCAA national championship banners. When the NHL speaks, NCSU listens.




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