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Doesn't his son still go to high school in Chapel Hill? I imagine it's difficult to live in Chapel Hill and stay away from UNC-Chapel Hill. 

Bingo.

But as usual, the deniers and deflectors are in here defending all things Carolina.

Just once, I wish one of these folks would just speak common sense, and respond with, "Yeah, he really shouldn't be there probably. It looks bad."

But you can't even get that much from them. It really is funny, and ridiculous. I know I'd respect them for that and be more inclined to just let the topic die. Instead, they come here pretending nothing's wrong with it in any way (like the good little Iraqi Ministers of Information that they are) and we have to go on the attack here. 

- Posted by TruthBKnown Left The Building

TBK - you know I don't deny or deflect, but I don't have a problem with Butch going to games. To be honest, I'm surprised he IS going. I thought when Butch was canned he wouldn't let the door hit his rear on his way out to the bank.

That said, I can see where it's not the PC thing to do. Part of me - I guess the naive part - thinks it nice that Butch still cares. I thought that the way he was fired - so suddenly, after being given public support by Baddour and Thorp - that Butch would be bitter and never set foot on Kenan again.  

- Posted by jgunn

It just looks bad. And Carolina officials giving him a vote of confidence almost appears to be an endorsement of him. Butch and Carolina still seem to be in bed together.

The only real defense is to say nothing was PROVEN to be tied directly back to Butch. But his policies didn't work. He was fired for that. Most would just move on in this situation.

It also feels like he and Carolina continue to thumb their noses at everything the rest of the world feels is acceptable and right. 

- Posted by TruthBKnown Left The Building

what vote of confidence did they give him? He is attending games and got the game ball. That is all that Baddour is condoning.

The article here is building it up to more than it really is.

nothing to see here..really.  

While there might not be anything wrong with Butch "hanging around" in fact, it's the appearance factor. While they are under review like this, UNC would do best to distance themselves from Butch Davis until the NCAA rules. It might give the appearance of them saying "we're not sorry for our actions." That might not be the case, but again, appearance is everything. 

- Posted by fzero

Bingo.

But as usual, the deniers and deflectors are in here defending all things Carolina.

Just once, I wish one of these folks would just speak common sense, and respond with, "Yeah, he really shouldn't be there probably. It looks bad."

But you can't even get that much from them. It really is funny, and ridiculous. I know I'd respect them for that and be more inclined to just let the topic die. Instead, they come here pretending nothing's wrong with it in any way (like the good little Iraqi Ministers of Information that they are) and we have to go on the attack here. 

- Posted by TruthBKnown Left The Building

TBK - you know I don't deny or deflect, but I don't have a problem with Butch going to games. To be honest, I'm surprised he IS going. I thought when Butch was canned he wouldn't let the door hit his rear on his way out to the bank.

That said, I can see where it's not the PC thing to do. Part of me - I guess the naive part - thinks it nice that Butch still cares. I thought that the way he was fired - so suddenly, after being given public support by Baddour and Thorp - that Butch would be bitter and never set foot on Kenan again.  

- Posted by jgunn

It just looks bad. And Carolina officials giving him a vote of confidence almost appears to be an endorsement of him. Butch and Carolina still seem to be in bed together.

The only real defense is to say nothing was PROVEN to be tied directly back to Butch. But his policies didn't work. He was fired for that. Most would just move on in this situation.

It also feels like he and Carolina continue to thumb their noses at everything the rest of the world feels is acceptable and right. 

While there might not be anything wrong with Butch "hanging around" in fact, it's the appearance factor. While they are under review like this, UNC would do best to distance themselves from Butch Davis until the NCAA rules. It might give the appearance of them saying "we're not sorry for our actions." That might not be the case, but again, appearance is everything. 

- Posted by fzero

Bingo.

But as usual, the deniers and deflectors are in here defending all things Carolina.

Just once, I wish one of these folks would just speak common sense, and respond with, "Yeah, he really shouldn't be there probably. It looks bad."

But you can't even get that much from them. It really is funny, and ridiculous. I know I'd respect them for that and be more inclined to just let the topic die. Instead, they come here pretending nothing's wrong with it in any way (like the good little Iraqi Ministers of Information that they are) and we have to go on the attack here. 

- Posted by TruthBKnown Left The Building

TBK - you know I don't deny or deflect, but I don't have a problem with Butch going to games. To be honest, I'm surprised he IS going. I thought when Butch was canned he wouldn't let the door hit his rear on his way out to the bank.

That said, I can see where it's not the PC thing to do. Part of me - I guess the naive part - thinks it nice that Butch still cares. I thought that the way he was fired - so suddenly, after being given public support by Baddour and Thorp - that Butch would be bitter and never set foot on Kenan again.  

- Posted by jgunn

When you put a lot of working to building a football team you are connected to those kids forever. He loves those kids and he wants to see them play. Since he's not employed at another university and his son is playing high school football at Chapel Hill, why shouldn't he be at the games. I can guarentee he's not interfering with Coach Withers. He wouldn't disrespect Coach Withers, no coach would. So why should Baddour have a problem with it? Coach Davis doesn't go to the game and the haters will be on here ctitizing him for only caring about the money not the team. He goes to the game and he's interfering. No matter what he does the haters are going to hate.  

While there might not be anything wrong with Butch "hanging around" in fact, it's the appearance factor. While they are under review like this, UNC would do best to distance themselves from Butch Davis until the NCAA rules. It might give the appearance of them saying "we're not sorry for our actions." That might not be the case, but again, appearance is everything. 

- Posted by fzero

Bingo.

But as usual, the deniers and deflectors are in here defending all things Carolina.

Just once, I wish one of these folks would just speak common sense, and respond with, "Yeah, he really shouldn't be there probably. It looks bad."

But you can't even get that much from them. It really is funny, and ridiculous. I know I'd respect them for that and be more inclined to just let the topic die. Instead, they come here pretending nothing's wrong with it in any way (like the good little Iraqi Ministers of Information that they are) and we have to go on the attack here. 

- Posted by TruthBKnown Left The Building

TBK - you know I don't deny or deflect, but I don't have a problem with Butch going to games. To be honest, I'm surprised he IS going. I thought when Butch was canned he wouldn't let the door hit his rear on his way out to the bank.

That said, I can see where it's not the PC thing to do. Part of me - I guess the naive part - thinks it nice that Butch still cares. I thought that the way he was fired - so suddenly, after being given public support by Baddour and Thorp - that Butch would be bitter and never set foot on Kenan again.