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Jeff Gravley

All-ACC voting

Posted March 5, 2012

There has been a lot of conversation about this year's All-ACC voting, especially whether or not Kendall Marshall should have been on the first team or not. He was 2 points short of teammate Harrison Barnes who landed the final spot on the first team.

There are a few things that could have helped Marshall get that first team spot. Had North Carolina run the table in conference play there would have been more incentive to have four Tar Heel players on the first team. Secondly, I think it hurt Marshall that in 16 ACC games he scored in double figures only 5 times. Yes, I know the point guard's primary role is to run the show and distribute the ball and Marshall is a master. But 5 games in double figure scoring?

You hear the argument of the high value Kendall Marshall has to North Carolina's team. So true! But value doesn't equate to first team votes. Otherwise former NC State guard Chris Corchiani would have been a lock for first team all-conference, even though he never was a first- teamer. (He earned a pair of second team and a third team honors) Duke's Bobby Hurley?? He was first team his senior year and on the second and third team in two other years.

Take Kendall Marshall away and North Carolina isn't as good. Take Harrison Barnes away and North Carolina isn't as good.  Those were two that I picked from to be the final addition to my first team. Barnes won out.  

I love the way Marshall has handled it. He tweeted that he was happy for his teammates and then followed up with this tweet Monday night. "If we achieved all of our goals then what would we drive for?"

The conductor just got some more fuel to add to the engine. 

 

Here's my All-ACC ballot.

First team: Tyler Zeller, John Henson, Harrison Barnes, Austin Rivers, Mike Scott.

Second team: Kendall Marshall, Terrell Stoglin, Lorenzo Brown, Durand Scott, Michael Snaer

Third team: CJ Leslie, Seth Curry, Bernard James, Andre Young, Ryan Kelly

Player of the Year: Tyler Zeller

Coach of the Year: Mike Krzyzewski

Rookie of the Year: Austin Rivers

Defensive Player of the Year: John Henson

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  • VT1994Hokie Mar 10, 2012

    I still can't understand that a VT player was the leader in double figures in the ACC..averaging a tad over 15 points for the season in all ACC games, and, can't even be selected by a writer for either the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd team. Nah.

  • Zaknow Mar 7, 2012

    Marshall has been very consistent all year and has proven he can score when it is necessary. Barns on the other hand has played in spurts. Even if some of his play has been great Marshall has ben there every game. I don't see Barnes ahead of Marshall. The rest of the selections were solid!

  • VT1994Hokie Mar 7, 2012

    I would put Marshall ahead of Barnes. Without Marshall and his super passing UNC would not be where they are today. I have stated all year that he needs to shoot the ball. When he does he opens up the offense, and he makes the defense play hones. If they know he isn't going to shoot the ball they sluff off and cover and double other players. He is a team player firstly. His passing equals anyone that I have seen in the college game since Stockton. He is the motor for UNC. If they go deep he will be the chief factor.

    Jeff. I see that you didn't have Erick Green on either team. He averaged over 15 pts per game and was leading the ACC in scoring in double figures through out the season. You missed this one sir.

  • Objective Scientist Mar 6, 2012

    Sports today are WAY "over-analyzed" by both fans and sports writers. Furthermore the process of selecting/voting seems to be left up to the voters with regard to what is important and how each item of importance is to be weighed in the decision. There needs to be a consensus regarding what performance factors are important, team and individual, and how much each should weigh. With regard to All-ACC... is the basic question, for first team, who are the five best basketball players in the ACC - with regard to the ability to actually play the game? Should it be "by position"? With regard to Marshall... is he the BEST point guard in the conference? Or is he the BEST as in "most valuable" to his team? Which is it? Did one sports writer vote using one definition of "BEST" and another using a different definition? If that is the case... the voters need to decide now, before next season begins "the definition of "best" to be used by all. Gravely's analysis of why Marshall was not on the "first team" and Barnes was... well and good, but how did the other sports writers "analyze" the players to determine their votes? At least some attempt needs to be made to get everybody on the same page with regard that for which they will cast their ballots.

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