Joe Ovies

Triangle ACCtion: Notre Dame speculation continues

Posted July 9, 2012

ACC Commisioner John Swofford during a post-game celebration honoring Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski, following the 82-69 Duke victory over Davidson on Friday, November 18, 2011 (Photo by Jack Morton). dropped a speculative article behind their paywall Sunday night, with a source saying a group of ACC presidents met with Notre Dame.

That could mean anything, which makes it perfect for even more speculation in message-boards and on Twitter, but occasionally the simplest explanation is probably the correct explanation. The ACC is likely talking to Notre Dame about an Orange Bowl partnership and not about joining the conference. 

It's not like John Swofford hasn't talked to Notre Dame about possibly joining the conference at this point. What conference commissioner hasn't? And if previous history is any indication, Swofford is the ninja of conference realignment. He lurks silently and then strikes when people least expect it. If Notre Dame is going to join the ACC, we wouldn't know about it until the press release gets sent from Greensboro.

Speaking of Swofford...

The Ninja Commissioner struck again last week by signing a 12-year partnership extension with the Orange Bowl. 

The bottom line? An ACC champion that doesn't make the 4-team playoff event still has a home in the at-large bowl rotation and will send a replacement team if the conference champ is in the playoffs and the Orange Bowl isn't in the playoff rotation. Plus there's the added financial impact of the ACC gaining control of broadcasting rights. 

The ACC just needs a partner similar to the Rose Bowl arrangements with the Big Ten and PAC-12 or the Champions Bowl arrangements with the SEC and Big 12. That's where Notre Dame enters the picture and is likely the reason officials met with the school over the weekend. 

Swofford continues to keep the conference at the big boy table. It's up to the schools to actually do something about it with improved national performance.


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  • Ken D. Jul 11, 2012

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    Better in basketball, perhaps. But in football, I refer to my analysis earlier. Of the three schools, Pitt has had the best record in the past nine years. Notre Dame only cracked the top 25 twice, and not since 2006.

  • Toddler10-21 Jul 11, 2012

    ND is a has been. WOW!! Just in folks, the ACC is not a southern conference anymore. Last I checked even Maryland is considered a school in the North. ND, Pitt, and Syracuse will make the conference better in football, and basketball. Just get a grip, and deal with it.

  • mac240 Jul 11, 2012

    ND will not be an ACC member!

  • StunGunn Jul 10, 2012

    Very true about BC, and that is the only reason I was against them being added to the ACC during that first expansion. I looked at the ACC as a southern conference; that changed when BC was added. I liked the nine-team ACC, but that is over and wouldn't survive in today's college sport world anyway.

  • Ken D. Jul 10, 2012

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    Boston College is close to the Atlantic Ocean, but it sure isn't geographically suited to the ACC. To some extent, you can say the same thing about Miami. For the most part, those are all going to be opponents you will have to fly for to play. And if you are going to fly, it really doesn't make much difference whether you're flying to Boston or Chicago. The only real difference in ND's case is that it's in a different time zone. That's not a big deal to me.

  • StunGunn Jul 10, 2012

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    Very true, Ken. I heard an argument on the radio that ND would be a good fit for the ACC because it has a similar profile (private school that cares about academics)to several ACC schools - like Boston College, Duke and Wake. It may be a good business move to invite ND, but it doesn't make sense in one area: geography - ND is nowhere close to the Atlantic coast. I have mixed feelings about including them in the ACC.

    What are your thoughts about including ND in the ACC?

  • Ken D. Jul 10, 2012

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    The addition of Syracuse and Pitt doesn't change the character of ACC football at all. They fit the existing mold to a "T".

    In the nine seasons since 2003, Pitt has cracked the final BCS top 25 three times (at #17, 20 and 21). Syracuse is one of 12 BCS conference schools to never make the top 25 during that time. They are one of four ACC teams with that distinction - the most of any BCS conference. The other three? UNC, State and Duke.

    Yes sir - they will fit right in.

  • syracuse-slim Jul 10, 2012

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    Syracuse and Pitt will make things more interesting in the ACC, no doubt....

    We'll have to wait and see how Syracuse improves as time goes along....and they will....

  • syracuse-slim Jul 10, 2012

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    Actually, TBK, it was Greg Robinson that killed Syracuse football. Under Coach P, the program was stagnating and the decision was to fire him and get another coach, hence, G-Robber was we Cuse fans like to call him......

    Marrone will right the ship, I believe.....

  • syracuse-slim Jul 10, 2012

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    Ken, According to what I've heard is that they want to go to the SEC. But I have heard some speculation that the Big 12 might be a landing spot as well, but much more likely to the SEC, tho....

    But I think they won't go anywhere, period, IMHO. They'd be stupid if they went somewhere's other than the ACC...




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